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re: JPSO Sheriff Newell Normand defends deputy who beat teenager
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:02 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:02 pm to CocomoLSU
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I am ignorant of the law, but at some point wouldn't it potentially cross over into something like disorderly conduct or even inciting a riot? Those things aren't legal.
Oh, you're going to jail but the video will get all charges dropped and you'll have a nice civil suit on your hands.
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:02 pm to Bourre
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That kid had to know he was yelling "frick the pigs" at a cop and not some random guy.
I can yell that all day to a cop.
It isnt a crime.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:08 pm to MightyYat
Any mention of the underage young man's B.A.C.?
There are assertions and photos out on F.B. that indicate it was twice the legal level.
There are also photos and assertions of the underage subject drinking daquiris with his mother, the day after his beating. I realize all this is tangential fodder for social media, but it IS out there.
Waiting to hear the entire story from beginning to end with evidence, so here's the problem with the body cameras. They're better than not having them, that's ferdamnsure, but what went on prior to the camera arriving on the scene?
There are assertions and photos out on F.B. that indicate it was twice the legal level.
There are also photos and assertions of the underage subject drinking daquiris with his mother, the day after his beating. I realize all this is tangential fodder for social media, but it IS out there.
Waiting to hear the entire story from beginning to end with evidence, so here's the problem with the body cameras. They're better than not having them, that's ferdamnsure, but what went on prior to the camera arriving on the scene?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:09 pm to RedPop4
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, so here's the problem with the body cameras.
cops dont like being caught on film being thugs?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:10 pm to Sentrius
quote:Because there is a judgment that comes into play somewhere between a (1) single person yelling "frick the pigs" to a sheriff's deputy and (2) a large group of intoxicated people yelling "frick the pigs" in the middle of a parade and possibly instigating further conflict.
Why not?
It morphs from a "free speech" issue -- in quotes because this never was about "free speech" in the first place, given that there was an observed criminal action which led to the police involvement -- into a public safety issue.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:10 pm to RedPop4
quote:
Waiting to hear the entire story from beginning to end with evidence, so here's the problem with the body cameras. They're better than not having them, that's ferdamnsure, but what went on prior to the camera arriving on the scene?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:15 pm to RedPop4
Let's say he was drunk.
Let's say he was mouthy.
Let's say he deserved to be arrested.
None of that gives that cop the right to beat him in the face.
He can work off his SMS in the MMA.
Let's say he was mouthy.
Let's say he deserved to be arrested.
None of that gives that cop the right to beat him in the face.
He can work off his SMS in the MMA.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:15 pm to CptBengal
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I can yell that all day to a cop. It isnt a crime.
Never said it was a crime, you do you. But don't act like the kid thought some random guy just showed up to yell at some teenagers during an arrest. He knew it was a cop he was yelling at. That was my point.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:16 pm to Bourre
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He knew it was a cop he was yelling at. That was my point.
moot point is moot.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:19 pm to Bourre
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He knew it was a cop he was yelling at. That was my point
He may have and I think he probably did know the guy was a cop. That is still no reason for the cop to use the amount of force that he did in that situation. I would like to see the part in the JP manual that gives instructions to punch an aresstee in the face multiple times.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:20 pm to MightyYat
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Yeah you can.
Nah, I watched a guy (sober) outside a bar one evening yelling on his phone and cursing at someone. Cop working the corner threatened arrest for disturbing the peace and obstruction if he chose to continue the conversation in that manner.
It's all BS, but the resisting arrest/obstruction statutes are catch-alls for the cops.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:21 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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This is why you should always shoot the perp dead. A dead body can't defend itself or sue
yep
kill to fool and then say "Hey man, I had to stand my ground! After I started following him the kid he hid and jumped me, said I was gonna die, and smashed my head onto the pavement!"
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:24 pm to Ice Cold
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It morphs from a "free speech" issue -- in quotes because this never was about "free speech" in the first place, given that there was an observed criminal action which led to the police involvement -- into a public safety issue.
next time I'm at Death Valley and thousands of students start chanting "Suck that Tiger dick bitch" I'll be sure to alert the police to the dangerous sex crimes about to occur.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:26 pm to RedPop4
quote:
Any mention of the underage young man's B.A.C.?
There are assertions and photos out on F.B. that indicate it was twice the legal level.
There are also photos and assertions of the underage subject drinking daquiris with his mother, the day after his beating. I realize all this is tangential fodder for social media, but it IS out there.
Waiting to hear the entire story from beginning to end with evidence, so here's the problem with the body cameras. They're better than not having them, that's ferdamnsure, but what went on prior to the camera arriving on the scene?
So now because he was a drunk teenager he should've been punched in the face by a cop 5 times? C'mon now.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:49 pm to RedPop4
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There are also photos and assertions of the underage subject drinking daquiris with his mother, the day after his beating.
It's just a go cup from a daiquiri shop, it could be water or coke for all we know. Plus in LA you can drink if you're underage and under the supervision of your parents.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:55 pm to RedPop4
quote:
underage subject drinking daquiris with his mother, the day after his beating.
Not illegal in Louisiana.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:02 pm to magildachunks
legal and illegal don't matter to cop defenders. The boots need to be shined either way and excuses have to be made for the cops action.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:06 pm to RedPop4
quote:
There are assertions and photos out on F.B. that indicate it was twice the legal level.
So a photo indicates what his BAC was? Must be a pretty spectacular zoom setting.
quote:
so here's the problem with the body cameras. They're better than not having them, that's ferdamnsure, but what went on prior to the camera arriving on the scene?
There are literally NO problems whatsoever with body cameras. Sorry cops can't control themselves.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:34 pm to Rickety Cricket
All these things about him drinking, yelling are pretty much moot points.
1 I dont beIieve for a minute that the undercover identified himself or provided a badge before the altercation started. I have spent many of mardi gras in metry and most of the under covers working detail are there looking for shite. It's funny that they only pick on high school kids rather than all the thugs that hang out there.
2. You can say what ever you want to or at a cop. Yelling frick the pigs to a cops face Isn't ever a good Idea and your probably going to have a bad time but the most they can charge you with is disturbing the peace. How many people were arrested in ferguson for saying the exact same thing?
3. We don't know when the cop identified himself as such and that's the tell take sign on what happened here. If it can be proven that he In fact did, that that justifies the arrest and charges brought against the kid
4. If it does come out with hard proof that the cop identified himself and was still pushed, then the actions to subdue the kid and place him under arrest would be justifiable but it still dosent excuse the beat down that took place. the video that is in exzistance shows the kid was on the ground, no longer being any type of threat when the cop starts to beat him in the face. There is no way anyone will believe after looking at that video that at that point the cop felt threatened
1 I dont beIieve for a minute that the undercover identified himself or provided a badge before the altercation started. I have spent many of mardi gras in metry and most of the under covers working detail are there looking for shite. It's funny that they only pick on high school kids rather than all the thugs that hang out there.
2. You can say what ever you want to or at a cop. Yelling frick the pigs to a cops face Isn't ever a good Idea and your probably going to have a bad time but the most they can charge you with is disturbing the peace. How many people were arrested in ferguson for saying the exact same thing?
3. We don't know when the cop identified himself as such and that's the tell take sign on what happened here. If it can be proven that he In fact did, that that justifies the arrest and charges brought against the kid
4. If it does come out with hard proof that the cop identified himself and was still pushed, then the actions to subdue the kid and place him under arrest would be justifiable but it still dosent excuse the beat down that took place. the video that is in exzistance shows the kid was on the ground, no longer being any type of threat when the cop starts to beat him in the face. There is no way anyone will believe after looking at that video that at that point the cop felt threatened
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:42 pm to JS87
Does anyone have a link to the full presser?
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