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re: Chavis felt his defense was under unnecessary strain?

Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:34 am to
Posted by jumpup123
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Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:34 am to
What was LSU record in the three year span?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 5:20 am to
AT TAM his defense won't have to carry the team like it did at LSU. With a prolific offense to work a long with, his defense wont be under as much 'unnecessary strain'. Stats will suffer, but he is not talking about stats. 15 pages arguing that?
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22747 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:17 am to
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. With a prolific offense to work a long with, his defense wont be under as much 'unnecessary strain'. Stats will suffer, but he is not talking about stats. 15 pages arguing that?


Should read at A&M with a prolific offense to work a long with, and a culture focused solely on offense, his defense won't be much of a unnecessary strain for the SEC. Stats will suffer, but he isn't talking about stats, he is talking about Aggies pocketbooks. 15 pages arguing that?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9577 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 9:24 am to
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chilge1


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For more fun, let's compare Chavis to Pelini.

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LSU Defenses against Power 5 Opponents 
Yards Per Play (Rank) Points Per Play (Rank) Third down % (Rank) 

2005 4.0 (3) .23 (8) 27.6 (3) 
2006 3.9 (3) .20 (5) 31.8 (15) 
2007 4.2 (5) .29 (22) 35.1 (24) 
 
2009 4.6 (17) .22 (8) 36.7% (36) 
2010 4.9 (26) .29 (19) 33.3 (8) 
2011 4.0 (2) .16 (2) 36.8 (36) 
2012 4.3 (7) .24 (10) 31.5 (9) 
2013 5.1 (34) .32 (34) 39.5 (63) 
2014 4.9 (26) .28 (17) 37.16 (33) 


5>1
Thank God for 2011.



that is one hell of a interesting post...
Posted by gene_parmesan
Member since Jan 2014
247 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:17 am to
"The issues is that his D will see similar number of snaps on the field do to the amount of time that gets run off the clock when the O goes three incompletions and 11 seconds run off the clock."


I know after last year watching LSUs passing game that its easy to assume that a QB can't complete passes, but a&m's passing offense is just a tad more coherent than LSUs.


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Let's see what he can do without that advantage and without that talent. Time will tell.


I keep seeing this, as if aTm doesn't have talent. I am not sure where all these LSU posters are getting this impression that aTm doesn't have any talent.

LINK

While there is no denying that LSU had an embarrassment of riches in terms of talent, its not as if Chavis has gone off to Western Connecticut State. aTm is in the top 10 over a 4 year average, and they have only been trending up ever since Sumlin's arrival.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:18 am to
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chilge1


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For more fun, let's compare Chavis to Pelini.

quote:

LSU Defenses against Power 5 Opponents 
Yards Per Play (Rank) Points Per Play (Rank) Third down % (Rank) 

2005 4.0 (3) .23 (8) 27.6 (3) 
2006 3.9 (3) .20 (5) 31.8 (15) 
2007 4.2 (5) .29 (22) 35.1 (24) 
 
2009 4.6 (17) .22 (8) 36.7% (36) 
2010 4.9 (26) .29 (19) 33.3 (8) 
2011 4.0 (2) .16 (2) 36.8 (36) 
2012 4.3 (7) .24 (10) 31.5 (9) 
2013 5.1 (34) .32 (34) 39.5 (63) 
2014 4.9 (26) .28 (17) 37.16 (33) 


5>1
Thank God for 2011.


that is one hell of a interesting post...


And yes it'll be completely ignored by the "real fans"
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:19 am to
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aTm is in the top 10 over a 4 year average, and they have only been trending up ever since Sumlin's arrival.


And how many of those top-recruits are on defense?
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:27 am to
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He felt that his defense was under unnecessary strain because of the Tigers' offensive inconsistency.


This x 10000000000

Tired of always playing with their back against the wall because of an inept offense. I'm sure he was tired of it and calling on the defensive team to save the day. I'm surprised there wasn't a ton of turmoil amongst the team due to it.
Posted by gene_parmesan
Member since Jan 2014
247 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:29 am to
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And how many of those top-recruits are on defense?


google, how does it work?

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were you trying to infer that Sumlin, being an offensive mind, would only recruit highly ranked offensive players, and then sort of cobble together some scrubs on defense? I mean, I know he hasn't beaten LSU, but give the man some credit.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 10:31 am to


Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 1:21 pm to
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infer


Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22747 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 2:11 pm to
Gene P..... To argue that A&M has talent on defense is laughable..... They lack any talent at lb and db with the exception of armani watts.... On the Dl, they are pudding with a lean pass rusher and an incoming freshman expected to start....

Chavis needs 3 recruiting classes to even come close to running his mustang
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:03 pm to
I appreciate what Chavis did for LSU while he was the DC.But the way he has handled this situation the past few months, such as the phone call with Sumlin the day of the bowl game, the pictures and stories of him actively recruiting for A&M while he was still employed by LSU and now this dumbass law suit, I am glad he's gone. All I can say now about him is frick HIM!
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:38 pm to
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Should read at A&M with a prolific offense to work a long with, and a culture focused solely on offense,



You should take a look at the recruits they have signed lately on defense. Chavis will have plenty of talent to work with on defense over there. Also if it was a culture focused solely on offense they wouldn't have gone out there way to get Chavis on their staff. Makes no sense to think that just because you want to have a good offense that you don't want a good defense. Look at Bama or Ohio St. They both manage to have both.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 6:53 pm to
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Also if it was a culture focused solely on offense they wouldn't have gone out there way to get Chavis on their staff


Seems more like the AD giving Sumlin ample cause to be fired if he can't put together a complete team with a proven DC.

You think people bitch about Miles and his 4.3 mil?
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 6:54 pm
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:10 pm to
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Tired of always playing with their back against the wall because of an inept offense


The score of the game doesnt hinder the defenses' ability to get 3 and outs .
Also, our offense's tempo is a huge reason Chavis' defenses to be ranked high in total defense.
This post was edited on 3/3/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:15 pm to
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look at Bama or Ohio St. They both manage to have both.


Bamas D actually got worse when Kiffen arrived and got away from the run game.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22747 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:38 pm to
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You should take a look at the recruits they have signed lately on defense. Chavis will have plenty of talent to work with on defense over there. Also if it was a culture focused solely on offense they wouldn't have gone out there way to get Chavis on their staff. Makes no sense to think that just because you want to have a good offense that you don't want a good defense. Look at Bama or Ohio St. They both manage to have both.


Boxcar.....I live here....I've watched every game they played last year. There 2013 class of recruits has dismantled.......the only talented players on Defense currently are made up of 2 men: Watts & Myles......everything else they displayed has been hot garbage.

You can't tell me Synder was So bad he couldn't field a D that ranked under triple digits in team stats.......that's fricking crap.

They went after Chavis so Sumlin could have a scape goat. He now resides in the perfect situation. Score points but if defense sucks again he can blame a man with stripes on the wall and save face.

Their core defensive unit missed on every possible recruit they needed this year sans Mack.......they missed out on 3 huge CBs, 1 safety, hell they had to steal a LB committed to ULL.

I don't care what the recruiting rankings say: what I've seen them field is pudding.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 7:43 pm to
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They went after Chavis so Sumlin could have a scape goat. He now resides in the perfect situation. Score points but if defense sucks again he can blame a man with stripes on the wall and save face.


I doubt it. As I said earlier, I think it's more likely that the AD is more or less letting Sumlin hang himself by hiring Chavis. If he can't win with a proven DC, he's not going to win.
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
467 posts
Posted on 3/3/15 at 11:32 pm to
I agree ! When you can't get a 1st down in the 2nd half then yes, it does put a strain on the Defense !
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