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Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:25 pm to Chimlim
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This was one major weakness with Chavis
Another would be any mobile-QB not named Johnny Manziel.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:27 pm to gene_parmesan
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no
no
I assume you mean Venables and Bud Foster? Please. Give either of them the talent that Bama is bringing in, year in/year out, and they would be ridiculous.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:33 pm to gene_parmesan
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no. YOU are the one making it about 2013s offense because you have no other leg to stand on.
No you said 2013 offense was average.
Eta: you said 60 was average. If that's true lsu's offenses were above average in offensive points per game in all but 1 season during chavis' tenure. Thats legs to stand on. You proven to not know basic things in this thread. You said an lsu offense where the qb almost broke the lsu passing record , JHill had the 2nd best rushing season in the history of the program, and 2 1000 yard wrs was just ok. Let that sink in. Stop while youre behind.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:38 pm to DBU
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Please. Give either of them the talent that Bama is bringing in, year in/year out, and they would be ridiculous.
you act as if VT and clemson are bringing in scrubs. comparatively speaking, clemson gets the best recruits in the ACC at schools not named FSU and VT is 4th in the ACC.
look, don't take my word for it that the defense was really really good, take it from someone who is a little more objective.
LINK
"For the last five years, defense has been the main constant in LSU's success. We just expect it. Maybe even take it for granted a little."
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:42 pm to gene_parmesan
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For the last five years, defense has been the main constant in LSU's success. We just expect it. Maybe even take it for granted a little."
Not when looking at yards and points per play.only 2 years in the top 15.
I guess you missed the rest of that article where it showed how lsu was horrible in sacks and tfl.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:45 pm to gene_parmesan
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you act as if VT and clemson are bringing in scrubs. comparatively speaking, clemson gets the best recruits in the ACC at schools not named FSU and VT is 4th in the ACC.
Yes, and Bama gets the best recruits in the entire COUNTRY.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:47 pm to JaxTiger10
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If that's true lsu's offenses were above average in offensive points per game in all but 1 season during chavis' tenure.
LINK
2014- 76
2013- 23
2012- 57
2011- 17
2010- 45
2009- 76
2008- 30
so 2 years, below average, 4 years above average, the highest being 17, meaning that the 2013, using your own words, wasnt even the highest rated offense using your own metric. of course, that can be explained by the fact that the 2011 defense and special teams contributed greatly to scoring themselves, or putting the offense in a position to score easily. so, maybe (gasp!) points per game ISN'T that good of a metric to use.
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You said an lsu offense where the qb almost broke the lsu passing record , JHill had the 2nd best rushing season in the history of the program, and 2 1000 yard wrs was just ok.
I also said that, while the 2013 offense may be good BY LSUS STANDARDS (since you are citing LSU records they broke) it was 35th in the country and 6th in the SEC, both of which are backed by facts.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:50 pm to JaxTiger10
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I guess you missed the rest of that article where it showed how lsu was horrible in sacks and tfl.
yeah...in 2014. again, you keep wanting to use one year, instead of looking at chavis' entire body of work.
funny how that argument of using "the whole body of work" works when people want to defend Les and cite his 102-26 or whatever record in 10 seasons, but it doesnt work when trying to defend Chavis because, BAMA.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:51 pm to DBU
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Bama gets the best recruits in the entire COUNTRY.
and the level of competition which bama goes up against is better than the level of competition than VT and clemson face. relativity, how does it work?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:53 pm to gene_parmesan
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was 35th in the country and 6th in the SEC, both of which are backed by facts.
Holy shite. Only because lsu doesnt run a hurry up offense. In 2013, only 11 other teams,in the entire country were more successful when the ball was snapped.why is that so hard for you to understand? Total offense is skewed.yards per play and points per play isnt.
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fact that the 2011 defense and special teams contributed greatly to scoring themselves, or putting the offense in a position to score easily. so, maybe (gasp!) points per game ISN'T that good of a metric to use.
Our offense in 2011 was good.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:59 pm to gene_parmesan
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also said that, while the 2013 offense may be good BY LSUS STANDARDS (since you are citing LSU records they brok
2013 was only good by an alltime top 15 program
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:01 pm to L S Usetheforce
It was money. He wanted more, and he deserved what he was paid and nothing more.
I'm not saying Steele is better, but it is time for Chavis to hit the road. Incidentally, he does not strike me as a guy that people would want to be around. That includes parents and athletes alike. He reminds me of Wimpy, Popeye's hamburger eating friend.
I'm not saying Steele is better, but it is time for Chavis to hit the road. Incidentally, he does not strike me as a guy that people would want to be around. That includes parents and athletes alike. He reminds me of Wimpy, Popeye's hamburger eating friend.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:02 pm to gene_parmesan
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I also said that, while the 2013 offense may be good BY LSUS STANDARDS (since you are citing LSU records they broke) it was 35th in the country and 6th in the SEC, both of which are backed by facts.
I think chavis was a damn good coordinator.
Having said that, your analysis pretty much highlights why you are on such a different page with many others. Yards per play is a much better statistic than total offense. Common sense should tell you this.
Chavis could do an unbelievable job and not finish in the top 30 at A&M because of the offense they run. And, you will be sitting there scratching your head trying to figure out why he isn't successful.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:08 pm to L S Usetheforce
I think he got his arse reamed for another gump comeback and got his feelings hurt.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:15 pm to moneyg
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Having said that, your analysis pretty much highlights why you are on such a different page with many others. Yards per play is a much better statistic than total offense. Common sense should tell you this.
Thank you.
Lsu's offensive totals will always be lower because of a ball controlled offense and the fact that we rarely run a hurry up no huddle.So even when we have a high powered offense our totals are low because we dont run a bunch of plays.
Our defensive totals will almost always be ranked high because of our ball control offense doesnt give the other teams offense a lot of plays.
Points per play and yards per play,on offense and defense,are more pure stats because it isnt skewed by TOP or plays ran. Maybe i wasnt explaining it well enough
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:50 pm to DBU
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Because the people who's opinions actually matter, do not believe he is worth $1.7 Million
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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I feel sorry for him because most D Coordinators have easy jobs. Most teams have offenses that score 40 points per game, especially in the SEC.
We had that 2 years ago
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Disagree. That makes the job difficult. You can't expect much for $1.3 million per year
Not sure if serious
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:22 pm to gene_parmesan
I am as frustrated with our O as anyone, but come on, what the frick does unnecessary strain even mean.
Oh, and can someone please please teach gene parmesan WTF TOP means and how it is calculated.
Oh, and can someone please please teach gene parmesan WTF TOP means and how it is calculated.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 5:02 pm to L S Usetheforce
He was being honest, the past 5 years defense carried us, except for about 7 games in the final two minutes.
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