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re: John Chavis sues LSU and aTm
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:00 am to VernonPLSUfan
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:00 am to VernonPLSUfan
You can't give notice and immediately start working for a different employer. Him wearing TAMU gear in an in home visit with a TAMU recruit and Sumlin means everything. He was clearly working for TAMU at that point, or at the very least working against the interests of LSU, whom he's claiming was his employer at that time.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:05 am to Wayne Campbell
Sumlin can't help a brother out? If Chief walks, he's screwed, ha ha ha......
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:27 am to TigerRoad
This will be very embarrassing for TAM. First, it does not matter about when he turned in his resignation, the fact is he accepted another job and starting working for a new employer. LSU attorneys will schedule tons of depositons that will embarrass A&M. Chavis will be asked under oath all the details of every conversation with A&M, what, when, where, who, etc. then Sumlin will be asked. Recruts who Chavis met with could be deposed, documents will be subpoenaed, hotel recipes, phone records, credit cards. Any evidence that proves Chavis had left LSU and was working for A&M will be uncoverd. This is not going to look good for A&M , especially the contact made before the bowl game.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:55 am to therick711
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He'll dominate the trial but lose it at the end.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 1:38 pm to gorillacoco
from bits and pieces I have read there is no buyout in Chavis final year of his contract.supposedly his contract expired in Januarty,what day,not sure.Are details publicly available?
Posted on 2/28/15 at 2:04 pm to Wayne Campbell
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You can't give notice and immediately start working for a different employer. Him wearing TAMU gear in an in home visit with a TAMU recruit and Sumlin means everything. He was clearly working for TAMU at that point, or at the very least working against the interests of LSU, whom he's claiming was his employer at that time.
Either that or the Orderlies committed a significant recruiting violation. That should be suggested to the SEC/NCAA.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 2:15 pm to Bayoutigre
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from bits and pieces I have read there is no buyout in Chavis final year of his contract.supposedly his contract expired in Januarty,what day,not sure.Are details publicly available?
The bits and pieces you've read should probably include the op of this thread that you're posting in. It's pretty clearly stated there.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 3:02 pm to novabill
When you give notice, your employer can start interviewing your replacement immediately. However, in most circumstances you may not start your duties for your new employer until you have fulfilled your obligations to your now former employer.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 3:17 pm to lsufan31
quote:When you give notice on a contract, it usually means you are terminating the contract early. He wasn't signing an extension. Telling your employer that you don't intend to extend your contract is a normal thing in every profession. Is it LSU's claim that Chavis should have said nothing right up until Feb 1st?
When you give notice, your employer can start interviewing your replacement immediately. However, in most circumstances you may not start your duties for your new employer until you have fulfilled your obligations to your now former employer.
I think this will be a quick defeat for LSU and we are lucky AtM isn't firing him over this or we could be on the hook for his next contract too.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 5:02 pm to mmcgrath
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Is it LSU's claim that Chavis should have said nothing right up until Feb 1st?
Not as much as is (likely) their claim that he began fulfilling his duties at a new place of employment prior to his 11th to last month of employment at LSU. If he weren't an aTm employee in the public eye until 2/1, I could understand your "quick defeat" statement. As things are with the announcement and actions depicting those of an aTm employee, I cannot say that I agree with you.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 5:50 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:There weren't any responsibilities after the bowl game in December. Then after Aleva announced that Chavis owed them $400k on January 2nd, I think that pretty much severed all ties and obligations to LSU. We may find out in the court case, but I can believe that Chavis was relieved of all duties immediately after the bowl game, if he even coached the bowl game.
Not as much as is (likely) their claim that he began fulfilling his duties at a new place of employment prior to his 11th to last month of employment at LSU.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 11:46 pm to mmcgrath
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There weren't any responsibilities after the bowl game in December.
Link?
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Then after Aleva announced that Chavis owed them $400k on January 2nd
Allegedly because he announced he took a job at aTm and took a private airplane to start work there/meet with their athletic department and football coaches.
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I think that pretty much severed all ties and obligations to LSU.
Agreed. All ties were severed due to his actions before his contract was 11 months from over, leaving him on the hook for $400,000.
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We may find out in the court case, but I can believe that Chavis was relieved of all duties immediately after the bowl game, if he even coached the bowl game.
That's a fine theory. Kind of odd that he was at the game in the box in LSU gear if that were the case.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:49 am to novabill
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what makes people think he quit before this date?
this
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The man formally known as LSU's defensive coordinator John Chavis still has yet to be introduced as Texas A&M's defensive coordinator. But that doesn't mean the Chief hasn't hit the recruiting trail, trying to load up the Aggies Class of 2015.
So he either quit before 2/4/14 or he recruited for A&M while being employed by LSU.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:41 am to LSUfan4444
Chavis is just playing some prevent defense, what s character.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:46 am to WeeWee
So if Chavis wasn't an A&M employee while recruiting, then he would fall under "representative of the institution's athletics interests."
Such a "representative of the institution's athletics interests" falls under this NCAA bylaw:
If during discovery or deposition, attorneys find that Chavis made phone calls, the above might apply.
I don't think there are any applicable exceptions that would fall under the caveat "Except as otherwise permitted in this section."
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A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00)
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution;
(c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families; or
(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program.
Such a "representative of the institution's athletics interests" falls under this NCAA bylaw:
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All in-person, on- and off-campus recruiting contacts with a prospective student-athlete or the prospective student-athlete's relatives or legal guardians shall be made only by authorized institutional staff members. Such contact, as well as correspondence and telephone calls, by representatives of an institution's athletics interests is prohibited except as otherwise permitted in this section.
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All telephone calls made to a prospective student-athlete (or the prospective student-athlete's parents, legal guardians or coaches) must be made by the head coach or one or more of the assistant coaches who count toward the numerical limitations in Bylaw 11.7.6 (see Bylaw 11.7.2).
If during discovery or deposition, attorneys find that Chavis made phone calls, the above might apply.
I don't think there are any applicable exceptions that would fall under the caveat "Except as otherwise permitted in this section."
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:37 am to texashorn
I like that LSU has filed a counter suit inside LA, since after all, it is a LA based contract in question. That should more than level the playing field.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:45 am to LSU 318 LSU
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Took him 3 tries before he finally got through to his lawyer
He better hope that his "defense" lawyer doesn't lost it for him at the end.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 6:47 am to WeeWee
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So he either quit before 2/4/14 or he recruited for A&M while being employed by LSU.
Does he have a tumor in his belly?
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