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Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:47 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:
1) Peyton Manning
2) Shaun King
3) Charlie Ward/Chris Weinke
4) Jake Plummer
5) Eric Zeier/Danny Wuerffel
Why Wuerffel so low and Manning so high?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 5:51 pm to RollTide1987
I'm sure this question will get me murdered by the board, but how good was Tommie Frazier as a QB? He played before I watched college football so I never saw him play outside of watching some highlights of him, so I'm admittedly somewhat ignorant on him. But looking at his stats he averaged 880 yards passing and 489 yards rushing in his 4 years. I know those Nebraska teams were dominant but his individual stats seem fairly pedestrian. Did he have injury problems or something or are people just remembering him as the QB of a dynasty?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:01 pm to LL012697
He was arguably the best option QB in history.
I think he was second best, if Jamelle Hollieway doesn't blow his knee out he would have been better.
Darien Hagan was as good as Frazier but only started 2 years. Hagan was QB for the 90 Colorado nc team. He could throw with both hands 50 yards.
I think he was second best, if Jamelle Hollieway doesn't blow his knee out he would have been better.
Darien Hagan was as good as Frazier but only started 2 years. Hagan was QB for the 90 Colorado nc team. He could throw with both hands 50 yards.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:04 pm to VADawg
He's referring to Dave Klingler, who set all kinds of records after Ware left.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:08 pm to sms151t
quote:
He was arguably the best option QB in history. I think he was second best, if Jamelle Hollieway doesn't blow his knee out he would have been better.
agreed........
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:21 pm to Jamohn
quote:
Mike Vick as a freshman in '99 single-handedly dragging that Va-Tech squad to the Nat'l Title game was probably the most incredible non-Tommie Frazier thing I saw in CFB in the '90s. Just awesome.
I completely agree with you. Michael Vick absolutely deserves to be on the list ahead of Weinke and Ward who both benefited tremendously from Florida State's offensive system.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:39 pm to Bench McElroy
Plus Weinke's best season came in 2000. He didn't even play in the '99 Fiesta Bowl.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:50 pm to bgator85
quote:
Why Wuerffel so low and Manning so high?
Especially since the same UT team finally beat us and won the national title as soon as Chokeboy graduated.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:51 pm to LL012697
quote:
I'm sure this question will get me murdered by the board, but how good was Tommie Frazier as a QB? He played before I watched college football so I never saw him play outside of watching some highlights of him, so I'm admittedly somewhat ignorant on him. But looking at his stats he averaged 880 yards passing and 489 yards rushing in his 4 years. I know those Nebraska teams were dominant but his individual stats seem fairly pedestrian. Did he have injury problems or something or are people just remembering him as the QB of a dynasty?
He was still the title game MVP in a losing effort. That should tell you something.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:57 pm to RollTide1987
5. Gino torretta
4. charlie ward
3. steve McNair
2. tommie frazier
1. peyton manning
4. charlie ward
3. steve McNair
2. tommie frazier
1. peyton manning
Posted on 2/25/15 at 6:58 pm to Korin
Anyone that thinks Chris Weinkr or Danny Wuerrful were ever, at any point in their life, a better football player than Peyton Manning is certifiable.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:03 pm to Volmanac
quote:
Danny Wuerrful were ever, at any point in their life, a better football player than Peyton Manning is certifiable.
you can make an argument for Danny. He led the NCAA in TD passes in back to back years. Won a Heisman and a national title. His resume trumps Peyton's. He's 12th all time in NCAA history in TD passes.
now was he a better player? debatable. But it can be argued.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:03 pm to Volmanac
Says the Vol.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
3. steve McNair
Completely forgot about him. Yeah, Steve McNair has to be at least #2 on the list if not #1. He averaged 527 yards per game his senior year. Even if it was against Division 1-A competition, his numbers were absolutely insane.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:07 pm to Korin
quote:
He was still the title game MVP in a losing effort. That should tell you something.
I saw that fact. Chuck Howley accomplished that feat as well. Doesn't make him a hall of famer or an all time great player. I'm sure Frazier was great and I just didn't witness it, but this point doesn't sell me
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:10 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
you can make an argument for Danny. He led the NCAA in TD passes in back to back years. Won a Heisman and a national title. His resume trumps Peyton's. He's 12th all time in NCAA history in TD passes.
now was he a better player? debatable. But it can be argued.
Awards:
Wuerffel:
Heisman (96)
Maxwell (96)
Camp (96)
SN POTY (96)
O'Brien (95, 96)
Unitas (96)
Baugh (95)
SEC POTY (95, 96)
SECCG MVP (95, 96)
NCG MVP (96)
Peyton:
Maxwell (97)
O'Brien (97)
Unitas (97)
SEC POTY (97)
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:11 pm to LL012697
quote:
I saw that fact. Chuck Howley accomplished that feat as well. Doesn't make him a hall of famer or an all time great player. I'm sure Frazier was great and I just didn't witness it, but this point doesn't sell me
3x NCG MVP.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:12 pm to Volmanac
quote:
Anyone that thinks Chris Weinkr or Danny Wuerrful were ever, at any point in their life, a better football player than Peyton Manning is certifiable.
Going by college careers and college stats? 114 passing TD's to 89, finished with the highest QB rating ever at the time, won 4 SEC titles, a national title, Heisman, etc. Wuerffel was the better college QB.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:12 pm to Korin
quote:
Awards:
Wuerffel:
Heisman (96)
Maxwell (96)
Camp (96)
SN POTY (96)
O'Brien (95, 96)
Unitas (96)
Baugh (95)
SEC POTY (95, 96)
SECCG MVP (95, 96)
NCG MVP (96)
Peyton:
Maxwell (97)
O'Brien (97)
Unitas (97)
SEC POTY (97)
how many times did Wuerffel beat Manning when they played?
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