re: Is GGG one of the hardest punchers in boxing today?

If watching some clown who can't fight legally fight with cement gloves, and seriously hurt a guy is your favorite fight. That says a lot about you!

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Still my favorite modern-day fight, loaded gloves or not.

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Great fight for sure, but it doesn't touch JLC vs Corrales I, imo. That fight was in 2005, I believe, so that's assuming that you would consider a fight within the last 10 years as "modern day"

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*Allegdely

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Margaritos's gloves were loaded! I have no clue what you are talkin about?? Just because he wasn't caught in that fight is nothing to doubt. shite, I think about all the fights he's won and gotten away with before they finally caught him against Sugar Shane. And I already said Cotto was bleeding from places you aren't supposed to bleed from. But you are right about 1 thing Cotto was kickin his arse until the punihment he was taking from this chumps gloves started really affecting him. Cotto was a dominant fighter before that happened. Margarito without those gloves is not even a threat to anyone anymore. lol

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Allegedly

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That dickwad almost killed Kermit Cintron with those loaded gloves. Frick that cheat

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And Cotto beat the shite out of him in the second fight without his Plaster bullshite

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Margarito was shot by then. And Pacquiao had nearly blinded him a year earlier. All Cotto did was beat a fighter who should have never been granted a boxing license.

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Cotto took a lot of punishment in that first fight from that cheating POS. Anyone would be shell shocked after a beating like that and having doubts about fighting again. Cotto was bleeding from abnormal places like from his eyes and all. That maniac inflicted severe damage on Cotto who had to recover from that.

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Loaded gloves or not, the bottom line is Margarito beat the warrior out of him. Cotto hasn't been the same fighter since. Even against Pacquiao he just tried to survive and didn't even try to win after the 4th round.

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But he has revived his career under Freddie Roach and is a much different fighter now.

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That's hard to say because all he's done is beaten mediocre and washed up Delvin Rodriguez and old, legless Sergio Martinez. You have to remember that Cotto turned down fights against both Andy Lee and Canelo Alvarez. And supposedly the top fighter on Arum's list of opponents is Tim Bradley...who has no power and hasn't won a fight in 16 months. Like I said, Cotto is a damn joke now. The last time he fought anyone worth anything was Mayweather and Trout in 2012 and he lost both of those fights.

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He definitely ain't scared of a Quillen after going through that bullshite with Margarito.

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Never said he was scared of Quillin. I said Cotto and Quillin are scared of GGG.

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Never said he was scared of Quillin. I said Cotto and Quillin are scared of GGG.

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I dont believe this one bit, there isnt really any evidence of this. He stepped into the ring with Pacquiao when he was murdering people. I actually think the fight with GGG could get made. GGG hasnt done enough imo to have a lot of say in contract negotiations. I think that was the holdup in the Canelo situation since both considered themselves big names.

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I dont believe this one bit, there isnt really any evidence of this. He stepped into the ring with Pacquiao when he was murdering people. I actually think the fight with GGG could get made. GGG hasnt done enough imo to have a lot of say in contract negotiations. I think that was the holdup in the Canelo situation since both considered themselves big names.

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There's a big difference between fighting Pacquiao and Golovkin.

With Pacquiao, Cotto was fighting a guy coming UP in weight and Pac had only fought at or above that weight once (De La Hoya). Cotto was considered much bigger and stronger, which was why that was a 50-50 fight when it was made. No one was predicting the one-sided beat down that Pac put on him.

Golovkin is a true middleweight and has the best KO % in the division's history. Cotto is the middleweight champ but he's never actually fought at the limit. He fought Sergio at a catch-weight and Sergio was 40, coming off two surgeries and had only fought once in the last 20 months. The ONLY way and I mean the ONLY way Cotto fights Golovkin is if he makes him drain himself to 156 or lower. I'll put money on it right now that Cotto will NEVER fight Golovkin at middleweight. Never. Ever.

That clown didn't even want Andy Lee or Canelo Alvarez. That was EASY money for him, imo. Now this clown might fight Tim Bradley

He took advantage of the situation and won the middleweight title at a catch-weight against a guy who could barely walk and wore the longest trunks ever so that they could cover his knee brace. Now he's just holding it hostage. It's a damn shame.

Btw, Cotto could barely take punches from Chop Chop and Ricardo Torres....no way his chin holds up against a hard hitting middleweight.

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Martinez hadnt looked good in a few fights [before Murray].

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The frick? Where do you come up with this? He had been dominating every single fight, including beating the shite out of JCCJr for 11 rounds (before hurting his knee and nearly getting KO'd in the 12th). Before that injury in the Chavez fight, Martinez looked unstoppable.

Anyways, we've derailed this thread enough with the debate about whether Murray is a good fighter or not. Agree to disagree, I guess. Back on topic:

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I understand if no one wants to fight [Golovkin]

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Doesn't that fact alone speak to how good he is?

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Cotto wouldn't fight Canelo Alvarez (for no telling how many millions of dollars). What makes you think he'd fight Golovkin - a much more dangerous opponent - for much less money? I'd love to see it, but no way that fight happens IMO.

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Exactly. They already pulled the "Golovkin doesn't bring PPV numbers" excuse.

Here's a link from last year by Dan Rafael:

"Certainly, it's up to Miguel who he wants to fight but I think the Canelo [Alvarez] fight is a much more attractive fight," Top Rank's Bob Arum, Cotto's promoter, told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "Even though I love Golovkin and [K2 Promotions managing director] Tom Loeffler -- and nobody can say that Golovkin isn't a great fighter -- it's risk-reward in boxing. We don't know about Golovkin's ability on pay-per-view."

There you have it. And then Cotto turned down Canelo, the more "attractive" fight. I read recently that after Cotto's next fight the WBC will force him to either fight Golovkin or give up the belt. He's giving up that belt

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