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re: Inheritance what to do

Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

beneficiary Ira what would the consequences be other than ordinary income taxes.


I know on ordinary it is income +10% on the tax. I'm not sure if a beneficiary is done the same way.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:16 pm to
Never said that. All I said was that I have no life and that my only vice is cars. Right now I just have one.

No we are not going to blow all our money on cars.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

tigerrocket


Thanks. This is what I needed answered. I figured my assumptions were correct, but am far from an expert.

Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 1:18 pm to
If I do pay it off, plan is to max out my Roth IRA at $5500 and then the 401k at $18K. Then save the rest in a low risk investment, i.e. CD's. My payments don't exceed $18K, so I would just have to come up with an addition $5500 to cover the Roth. That will just come out of my pay.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 8:05 am to
Changed my mind on maxing out my 401k and Roth. I will continue to contribute up to company match. Then going to go with high dividend mutual fund or municiple bonds. I want low risk and if possible high reward but will take low reward. Just don't want to lose a lot. I have $150k tied up in my mom's ira that she left us and $60k between my 401k and Roth. Can touch that conceivably for another 19 years. Would rather pay my house off and invest the rest. Also will put into it since I won't have the mortgage note.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:00 am to
The only problem I see in paying off the house is it seems like a trap, or a justification if you will.

All the sudden you have more disposable income to spend, so if you don't put at least what the old mortgage payment was into retirement investments you've just told yourself a big lie and continued to take larger and larger distributions from the inheritance.

Does this make sense? And I don't neccessarilly mean you, I'm just taking in general about paying off the mortgage.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:45 pm to
Agreed. Just want the piece of mind knowing I own my own home. Something to be said about that.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12759 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:18 am to
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also, would it make sense to pay my house off or just continue to pay the note? Seems to me no brainer to pay it off. Owe about $150k at 4.75% interest. Have about 20 years left on 30 year note.


forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't refinancing the house be a viable option?
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:38 am to
I am going to be selling it soon, so doesn't make sense. Gonna find a similar place, so hoping lateral move but will get a better rate than now.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19422 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Seems to me no brainer to pay it off. Owe about $150k at 4.75% interest. Have about 20 years left on 30 year note.


Could you move out and rent it? How many bedrooms? I'd say $1200/mo would cover that note. If you could swing $2k in rent you could use the extra $800 towards a second property that you could live in. Boom you now have 2 appreciable real estate assets at a current market value of oh I don't know a note of $1200 with 20 years left, house is probably in the $250-$300k range? Let's say you build or buy a second spending the same on a note.

Now you've got $600k in assets that you are paying ~$400-600/mo on when going rate is ~$2400-$3000. Asset/Debt rate on these 2 alone (if you rent successfully) is 0.1%

On top of that, if you rent the current house for another 10 years that's $75k pure profit on that asset.

Meanwhile moms and gmaws accounts are growing by the day and you aren't touching a dime of it.

So, no paying off a mortgage at today's rates is not always the best financial decision.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 7:54 am
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 8:12 am to
Go see a professional. Worth the fee. /thread
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 8:13 am
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:36 am to
Considered renting but most of the people I know dislike it when they did it.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32538 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Just thought that paying off my mortgage was a no brainer. According to you all it appears not. Thanks for the advice.

This is what I would do, bc it frees up the money you are currently earning to invest and turn profit instead of the bank making money on you.
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Then save the rest in a low risk investment, i.e. CD's


Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 8:31 pm to
Cd's not good. Only other thing would be muni bonds or high yield dividend mutual fund
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4584 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:03 pm to
Over the next 20 yrs a well diversified growth objective will probably avg better than 4.75%/yr.

I would continue with the investments as long as they were quality. The stepped up cost basis would allow you to rebalance and make some slight changes and limit tax consequences.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:22 pm to
Plan on talking to an estate planner
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Question is if I want to take all the money out, other than ordinary income tax would I have to pay a penalty as well?


No penalty, could put you in a higher tax bracket. I would focus on the mix of assets in the inherited IRA and ensure they make sense to provide long term growth to support the increasing $ amount of future mandated withdrawals, if you are concerned about fluctuations in value keep enough $ in low volatility holdings in the IRA to meet your withdrawal requirements the next 1-3 years. You don't want it all in something ultra conservative or you will short change yourself.

With your step up basis on assets from your grandmother it would not be much of a tax hit to sell and seek more diversified investments than just a few stock holdings. You mention muni's, you are an accountant, study your tax returns and determine whether muni's are a proper fit for your marginal tax rate, they may not. If you choose something that generates dividends in a taxable account you want to check the amount of qualified dividends it throws off, and you want a high % of QDI as it could be tax free to you depending on your income level/marginal rate. Something like this would be SCHD, which is a high quality ETF that had 100% QDI in 2014 and has a very low expense ratio, 7 basis points. Not recommending you buy it, just giving an example.

IRS: "Qualified Dividends

Qualified dividends are the ordinary dividends subject to the same 0%, 15%, or 20% maximum tax rate that applies to net capital gain. They should be shown in box 1b of the Form 1099-DIV you receive.

The maximum rate of tax on qualified dividends is:

0% on any amount that otherwise would be taxed at a 10% or 15% rate.

15% on any amount that otherwise would be taxed at rates greater than 15% but less than 39.6%.

20% on any amount that otherwise would be taxed at a 39.6% rate.

To qualify for the maximum rate, all of the following requirements must be met.

The dividends must have been paid by a U.S. corporation or a qualified foreign corporation. (See Qualified foreign corporation , later.)

The dividends are not of the type listed later under Dividends that are not qualified dividends .

You meet the holding period (discussed next)."



If I were selling my house in the next 6 months I would not pay off the mortgage, something may come up and you may be tapped out of cash. I have been around the block a few times, money passed on to you should be well stewarded, but not overly conservative, as you may have 40+ years ahead of you and want to beat inflation and taxes.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 5:35 pm to
Like I said an estate planner should be able to put me in the right direction.
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