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Bapple and other RKI's, have you tried ultrasonic cleaning???
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:46 am
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:46 am
Just wondering which gives better results.
I am ready to get rid of all of this dusty, dirty walnut and corncob media.
LC
I am ready to get rid of all of this dusty, dirty walnut and corncob media.
LC
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:51 am to LongueCarabine
Bapple uses wet with stainless media
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:54 am to KingRanch
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Bapple uses wet with stainless media
I know. Was just wondering if he had tried ultrasonic and found he preferred wet/stainless.
I'm wondering about the pros and cons of each.
Stainless media isn't cheap, I'm wondering what kind of results you can get with ultrasonic.
LC
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:09 am to LongueCarabine
Never had dust issues with cob media. Little brass polish and Nu-Finish:
No dust and I've used this same batch of media for almost a year.
No dust and I've used this same batch of media for almost a year.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:18 am to LongueCarabine
Ultrasonic cleaner will chemically clean the brass (ultrasonic function just speed up the process) but wet or dry media tumbling physically polishes and smoothes cases. I'm not sure how much life you get out of the cleaning solution but I know stainless steel wet media lasts years and cob media can last a good long time.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:48 am to LongueCarabine
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I know. Was just wondering if he had tried ultrasonic and found he preferred wet/stainless.
I will use stainless tumbling for the rest of my life. It outperforms everything and is unbelievably consistent.
I don't like Ultrasonic because it has one area of strong intensity (right in the middle) so the batches must be sifted around. They also don't actually polish the cases like Clames said. Batch sizes are super small and the solution gets super hot.
I sum it all up here. Worth the watch if you think you wanna drop $200+ on a tumbler setup:
Tumbling Your Brass
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:49 am to LongueCarabine
One of the issues I found while researching the subject was capacity. If you are only cleaning a few rifle cases then ultrasonic might be ok. If you have 200-300 pistol cases then the dry media or the SS pin/wet method may be better. I personally use the SS pins method and it works great in less time than dry media. The only "chemicals" I add to the pins, brass, and water are liquid Dawn and Lemishine. I also remove the spent primers before cleaning and after about 90 minutes, the brass looks brand new!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:52 am to Bagger Joe
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Bagger Joe
Totally agree with you. No other method I've tried is consistent in getting every case spotless with large case loads. I can run about 300-400 .223 cases and they all come out looking exactly the same.
I set a timer for 4 hours and leave it until later.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:57 am to bapple
What method do you use for drying cases, Bapple? I just lay them out on a large towel in front of a box fan for a while but I've heard everything from putting them in the oven on a cookie sheet to food dehydrators.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 11:00 am to bapple
if i throw some shotgun chokes in a tumbler, will it clean them inside and out without damaging the threads?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 11:07 am to GaTiger78
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if i throw some shotgun chokes in a tumbler, will it clean them inside and out without damaging the threads?
It wont damage it. The brass is much softer than the steel choke tube.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 11:58 am to Clames
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Never had dust issues with cob media.
Yes, cob media is much better than walnut for dust, but it won't clean real dirty brass as well as walnut will.
I have a bunch of old walnut that I need to get rid of. Once my newer stash of unused walnut is done, I'll move to stainless.
LC
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:00 pm to bapple
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I sum it all up here. Worth the watch if you think you wanna drop $200+ on a tumbler setup:
Thanks, Bapple.
Like I've said before, I'm cheap. I won't spend a bunch of money on anything unless it really works. And all that dust from walnut really makes it less attractive. I'll switch as soon as this last batch I bought is worn out.
LC
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:26 pm to LongueCarabine
You don't really need to spend $200+ to get into stainless tumbling.
Get a Harbor Frieght dual drum tumbler. I think I got mine for less than $50 on sale. Then get the 2lb stainless refresh kit from stainless tumbling. I can do about 100 260 cases, 200 9mm, and about 150-180 223 cases. I actually think I can do more but haven't done anything really since the baby was born.
I think I'm into my setup for less than $100.
I also use the cheapest academy dehydrator to dry the brass.
So $150 total and I don't feel I'm lacking anything except quantity over the big name kits.
Get a Harbor Frieght dual drum tumbler. I think I got mine for less than $50 on sale. Then get the 2lb stainless refresh kit from stainless tumbling. I can do about 100 260 cases, 200 9mm, and about 150-180 223 cases. I actually think I can do more but haven't done anything really since the baby was born.
I think I'm into my setup for less than $100.
I also use the cheapest academy dehydrator to dry the brass.
So $150 total and I don't feel I'm lacking anything except quantity over the big name kits.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:21 pm to LongueCarabine
LC, throw a dryer sheet ripped into strips in there with walnut and it will take care of a lot of the dust.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 7:57 pm to bbvdd
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hrow a dryer sheet ripped into strips in there
Actually, I've done that and wasn't all that impressed with the results.
But I will have to use up all my walnut media before I go to wet/stainless. I bought about 40 pounds of it last year from Graingers, they had a good deal on it. So I'm stuck for a little while.
LC
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:41 pm to Bagger Joe
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What method do you use for drying cases, Bapple?
Same as you except I don't use a box fan. I lay them out on a beach towel and let them sit overnight. Usually the way I see if they're totally dry is to check the primer pockets. But the wet tumbling makes the cases very hydrophobic so they dry quickly.
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if i throw some shotgun chokes in a tumbler, will it clean them inside and out without damaging the threads?
If you use stainless tumbling media, it may mess up the threads. It's good for taking burrs out of brass but I wouldn't trust the stainless media on threads.
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Yes, cob media is much better than walnut for dust, but it won't clean real dirty brass as well as walnut will.
One thing I love about stainless media is that almost every piece of brass looks exactly the same. Some of the older ones with heavy corrosion will be just a bit darker but they are still very clean inside and out.
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I won't spend a bunch of money on anything unless it really works.
I've been using mine for over 3 years. I have never replaced the media and it will last a lifetime.
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Then get the 2lb stainless refresh kit from stainless tumbling.
I ordered 3 pounds from a different vendor but it was all I needed. Getting 5 pounds is a bit unnecessary. Plus using 2 fewer pounds just makes more room for cases.
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LC, throw a dryer sheet ripped into strips in there with walnut and it will take care of a lot of the dust.
I love never having to worry about this crap or cash polish ever again.
My own personal testimonial - a big batch of disgusting 45 brass:
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