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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:31 pm to goldennugget
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goldennugget
You should ask for a big wooden cross for Christmas, that way when you want to play the victim, instead of crying on here, you can climb up and nail yourself to it.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:33 pm to Hawkeye95
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I am not sure its a good long term strategy for acceptance, but I can sure understand why they do it.
Atheists don't care if Christians accept them.
Atheists are being accepted in growing numbers as churches attendance numbers decline.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:34 pm to GumboPot
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What they are displaying here is not a religion in any sense of the word. Do they have a right to display whatever they want? Sure. IDGAF. However I have a right to call them a bully, dick or meanie, when they are being a bully, dick or a meanie.
If you think people don't worship the game of thrones books as hard core as the bible (both works of brilliant fiction)...you are kidding yourself. Wait until the next book in the series gets released and you will see some serious worship.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:35 pm to Superior Pariah
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Both are based off fictional characters
That's your opinion
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How? By not allowing any religions (especially Christians) to display anything? Not going to happen. By not allowing atheists to display something? Good luck with that controversy.
The law says freedom of religion not freedom FROM religion.
I agree that many Christian groups have been guilty of trying to exclude other faiths and ideals from public settings.
However, I think abusing display privileges like this is childish. It doesn't prove a point, and frankly sends the wrong message. Whatever happened to having civil discussions? Aren't we supposed to be open to new ideas, and be tolerant of the beliefs of others?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:38 pm to Bmath
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Aren't we supposed to be open to new ideas, and be tolerant of the beliefs of others?
Can Christians not enjoy the nativity scene just because it has a GoT poster next to it? At least it is a nice picture. If you didn't read the small print words, there wouldn't really be anything to get worked up about.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:43 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Can Christians not enjoy the nativity scene just because it is flanked by GoT posters?
Well that's a strawman argument if I've ever seen one.
I would argue that it may distract away from the scene of such a peaceful message. An image that is traditionally displayed this time of year.
Sadly pushy Christians probably are equally responsible for these shenanigans.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:44 pm to Green Chili Tiger
As a Christian, I have no problem with this. If you allow one religion to display stuff on public property, you have to allow all religions.
Although I do think it's kind of dickish to do this in order to make fun of legit religions.
Although I do think it's kind of dickish to do this in order to make fun of legit religions.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:48 pm to asurob1
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If you think people don't worship the game of thrones books as hard core as the bible (both works of brilliant fiction)...you are kidding yourself. Wait until the next book in the series gets released and you will see some serious worship.
I'm just glad to see the atheists stepping out there as a mainline religion. So now all you freedom loving atheists that holler so loud about separation of church and state can go protest. What a conundrum?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:48 pm to Bmath
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It doesn't prove a point
Sure it does.
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Aren't we supposed to be open to new ideas, and be tolerant of the beliefs of others?
Shouldn't you ask this of fellow Christians? Because they believe that everyone who isn't onboard with their interpretation of a book is going to burn eternally in hell.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:05 pm to BayouBlitz
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f fellow Christians? Because they believe that everyone who isn't onboard with their interpretation of a book is going to burn eternally in hell.
You don't seem to know very much about Christianity. Not all Christians believe the same things. Even core beliefs are often disputed (I know this gets the atheists giddy to hear that).
Furthermore, not all Christians believe that lack of belief in their interpretation means you are going to hell. Even the pope, the head of the largest Christian church in the world, said that he does not believe that.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:12 pm to asurob1
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Atheists don't care if Christians accept them.
Atheists are being accepted in growing numbers as churches attendance numbers decline.
Society at large accepting them, not just christians. It is important to atheists otherwise they wouldn't try to do things like billboards, etc.
I am an atheist. I don't think the thumb in the eye approach works. ever. but that is me.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:14 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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They don't.
The athiests I do actually do get a little rustling in their jimmies about it.
What's kind of funny is their belief that there is no god and insistance on doing things with other athiests is stronger than most christians adherance to the 10 commandments and attendance in church. It's almost like a.......religeon?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Lg
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I'm just glad to see the atheists stepping out there as a mainline religion. So now all you freedom loving atheists that holler so loud about separation of church and state can go protest. What a conundrum?
Here's the definition of "religion"
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A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Now atheists LOVE to say they aren't part of a religion but doesn't this pretty much define them as well? They also congregate together at conventions and discuss how they can push their agenda upon the government just like any other religion does. Believe in what you want or not, but atheism is a religion just as much as Christianity is.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:19 pm to Hawkeye95
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I am an atheist. I don't think the thumb in the eye approach works. ever. but that is me.
Agree with you. Just like going up to people and saying "Accept Christ or you'll burn in hell for eternity" doesn't bring people closer to God. People just need to be more tolerant of each other in general.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:22 pm to TrueTiger
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would like to see this done in a muslim country
Yep. Easy to attack groups that you know won't behead you or slaughter your kids in school.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:36 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:Nothing positive to say for themselves?
So they did. For three fictional groups, including two honoring gods from Game of Thrones
Sad but . . .
Interesting.
Perhaps they'd be better off espousing their own philosophy, if they actually have one.
Or citing philosophy of someone far greater than their petulant petty selves.
E.g.,
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Christopher Eric Hitchens (13 April 1949 – 15 December 2011) was a British American author, atheistic philosopher, polemicist, debater, and journalist.
Hitchens' last words of the unfinished fragmentary jottings at the end of his final unfinished book may seem to trail off, but in fact they were written on his computer in bursts of energy and enthusiasm as he sat in the hospital using his food tray for a desk.
When he was admitted to the hospital for the last time, we thought it would be for a brief stay. He thought — we all thought — he’d have the chance to write the longer book that was forming in his mind. His intellectual curiosity was sparked by genomics and the cutting-edge proton radiation treatments he underwent, and he was encouraged by the prospect that his case could contribute to future medical breakthroughs. He told an editor friend waiting for an article, “Sorry for the delay, I’ll be back home soon.” He told me he couldn’t wait to catch up on all the movies he had missed and to see the King Tut exhibition in Houston, our temporary residence.
The end was unexpected.
…
At home in Washington, I pulled books off the shelves, out of the book towers on the floor, off the stacks of volumes on tables. Inside the back cover are notes written in his hand that he took for reviews and for himself. Piles of his papers and notes lie on services all around the apartment, some of which were taken from his suitcase that I brought back from Houston. And anytime I can peruse our library or his notes and rediscover and recover him.
When I do, I hear him, and he has the last word. Time after time, Christopher has the last word.
Hitchens wrote: ‘I am not fighting or battling cancer, it is fighting me. My two assets were my pen and my voice.’
…
Hitchens knew he was dying but saw the funny side of all the glowing praise for his literary work. ‘Now so many tributes that it also seems that rumours of my LIFE have also been greatly exaggerated.
‘Lived to see most of what’s going to be written about me: this too is exhilarating, but hits diminishing returns when I realise how soon it, too will be “background.”‘
…
He wrote: ‘Those who say I am being punished are saying that god can’t think of anything more vengeful than cancer for a heavy smoker.’
…
Hitchens maintained his devout atheism after being diagnosed with cancer, telling one interviewer: ‘No evidence or argument has yet been presented which would change my mind. But I like surprises.’
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:43 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:How avant-garde. Edgy.
LINK
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:49 pm to Hawkeye95
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I am an atheist. I don't think the thumb in the eye approach works. ever. but that is me.
I'm with you. Do you find your approach is more effective when you try to proselytize others into your faith? What do atheists do when they get a convert? I doubt you guys take someone down to the river.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:55 pm to Bmath
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The law says freedom of religion not freedom FROM religion.
Can you really have one without the other?
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