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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:28 am to CQQ
I wonder what the defensive ranking would be if Thibs was the coach of the same players. I mean that as s genuine curiosity, not an automatic slight on Monty. Thibs does what he does with a lot of veteran players, this team is still pretty young and people regularly talk about how AD is still bad at rotations and Tyreke loses his man a lot and then there's Babbit and Ryno.
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:34 am to TigerinATL
No way of knowing. The only thing that's certain is that Thibs would ruin AD by the time he's 26.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:56 am to CQQ
It means one or two of those guys are likely overrated defenders.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:07 am to Boomshockalocka
yawn
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:11 am to Boomshockalocka
I think they are appropriately rated as individual defenders but all of these guys are still learning the defense. i see a lot of missed rotations. especially when the bench comes in. I'm sure that drags the rating down and the fact that Babbit is starting, anybody know what the D rating was when EG was starting?
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:22 am to whoknows1390
I'm pretty sure it was top 10ish from what I remember seeing in nylon calculus retweets. Also curiously enough, the top 2 man unit on the team this year by a wide margin is Gordon and Asik at +14.7. The next closest is Ryno/Reke at +8.2 and then AD/Jrue at +7.9. LINK /
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:16 pm to TotesMcGotes
Ruin offensively? Because at this point I think monty has done that already and this is just ad being himself
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:21 pm to htran90
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Ruin offensively? Because at this point I think monty has done that already and this is just ad being himself
i think he meant physically, by playing him 45 min a game
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:44 pm to htran90
No he'd run him into the ground and nearly kill him, like he did Luol Deng.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:06 pm to CQQ
I made this thread about a month ago...
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/53609540/pelicans-21st-in-defensive-rating--1048/
They've actually gotten worse since then.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/53609540/pelicans-21st-in-defensive-rating--1048/
They've actually gotten worse since then.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:07 pm to PrimeTime Money
It's a monty issue
That and not having a good 3+D SF
That and not having a good 3+D SF
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:18 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I made this thread about a month ago...
I went looking and couldnt find your threads about the defensive ratings of the Grizzlies and Mavs. Could you link them too? Id like to read them.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:19 pm to TigerinATL
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Thibs was the coach of the same players
Well we saw it this summer. Granted competition wasn't NBA level, but Davis played with mostly average defenders. They were by far the best defense in the tournament and an USAB anomaly in that their defense, not their offense, won games.
I think you could convincingly argue the Pels have better defensive talent with Davis, Asik, and Holiday than any trio on the World Championship team.
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veteran players,
Pelicans have 5, 6, 7 year vets in their core. How much older do they need to be?
This sort of double talk about the rebuild just kills me.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:38 pm to corndeaux
It's not double talk. Who outside of Holiday and Asik would you classify as a savvy defender?Would Thibs do better than Monty, no doubt in my mind. Is the group good enough to replicate the success level he's had in Chicago, I'm not as sure.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:39 pm to corndeaux
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I think you could convincingly argue the Pels have better defensive talent with Davis, Asik, and Holiday than any trio on the World Championship team.
Then why are we having so much trouble?
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:39 pm to TigerinATL
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Is the group good enough to replicate the success level he's had in Chicago, I'm not as sure.
In the East it is
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:44 pm to Hester Carries
Why would I make those threads? It's not surprising that the Mavs suck on D and the Grizzlies are good on D.
I do find it strange that the Pelicans' D isn't better... and apparently some of you feel the same way, seeing as the OP made a nearly identical thread to the thread I made weeks ago.
I do find it strange that the Pelicans' D isn't better... and apparently some of you feel the same way, seeing as the OP made a nearly identical thread to the thread I made weeks ago.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:48 pm to PrimeTime Money
And we all agree, for three players (four if you include Gordon) to not have an average defensive rating is absurd. Sure more than half the games are against playoff caliber teams, but still is horrible to get worse and worse. At some point it's not the players but the coach.
Look at gs last year and this year, playoff caliber to championship caliber and their biggest addition was a better coach.
Look at gs last year and this year, playoff caliber to championship caliber and their biggest addition was a better coach.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:07 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Why would I make those threads? It's not surprising that the Mavs suck on D and the Grizzlies are good on D.
I don't find it odd that you didn't make those threads...
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