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re: Michigan hires search firm to help with football head coach search

Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:47 am to
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:47 am to
Miles will be named new Michigan coach by next Wednesday.....
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32494 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:52 am to
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there's that decade again that keeps popping up... Did you know that Michigan didn't win a single bowl game in the 1970's...


But But look at all those 10 win seasons.
1971 Bo Schembechler 11–1 8–0
1972§ Bo Schembechler 10–1 7–1
1973§ Bo Schembechler 10–0–1 7–0–1
1974§ Bo Schembechler 10–1 7–1
1976§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1
1977§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1
1978§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1
Posted by houstontyga
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:55 am to
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Miles will be named new Michigan coach by next Wednesday.....


Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22010 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:57 am to
sure...but again, how strong were those schedules? If we think the Big Ten is bad now, how bad was it then? Outside of Ohio State, the Big Ten was just terrible.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:59 am to
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Neither of which are still there so why the hell would they hire them again?



No kidding. "Hey guys, remember when you helped us hire that terrible AD and terrible football coach a few years ago? Well break out your rolodex, because it's time to do it again!"

What kind of a clown college operations are they running up there?
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:00 am to
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their top candidates seem to be pretty obvious; why do they need a search firm?
I have know idea, but historically colleges used to asked permission of schools before they talked the coach. But now so much of that is done through the agents they don't even have to talk directly to the coach to see if there is any interest.

This might be Michigan's way of getting around having to ask a school permission to visit with a coach. In Miles case, both schools have a lot to lose if this deal is not handled quietly and covertly.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30013 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:01 am to
UM tired of striking out it seems
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
4486 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:03 am to
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their top candidates seem to be pretty obvious; why do they need a search firm?

Also a search firm is often used to save face. They can go out and talk to anyone and leave some grey area for the University to say they never offered to certain coaches who say they are not interested.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:05 am to
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sure...but again, how strong were those schedules? If we think the Big Ten is bad now, how bad was it then? Outside of Ohio State, the Big Ten was just terrible.


Right.

The only reason that game was so big is because it was the only game they played basically.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:07 am to
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Did you know that Michigan didn't win a single bowl game in the 1970's...



I've never understood why Michigan worships Bo Schembechler like they do, considering he never won a National Championship, only won 2 Rose Bowls (heck, Barry Alvarez won more), and didn't win a bowl game until his 12th season in Ann Arbor, especially considering how storied their program is.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:09 am to
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this is kind of odd.


No shite!

2 weeks after the fire???

It would seem to imply their search is not going well, but who the hell knows.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87437 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:10 am to
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1971 Bo Schembechler 11–1 8–0
1972§ Bo Schembechler 10–1 7–1
1973§ Bo Schembechler 10–0–1 7–0–1
1974§ Bo Schembechler 10–1 7–1
1976§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1
1977§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1
1978§ Bo Schembechler 10–2 7–1


quote:

1971 Rose Stanford 12-13 L
1975 Orange Oklahoma 6-14 L
1976 Rose Southern California 6-14 L
1977 Rose Washington 20-27 L
1978 Rose Southern California 10-17 L

1979 Gator North Carolina 15-17 L


Times were far different back then, not many bowls to go to. From 1971 to 1979 they won the Big Ten 4 times and went to the Rose Bowl. The 1973 season is pretty famous as well:
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LINK
The 1973 Michigan Wolverines football team represented the University of Michigan in the 1973 college football season. In his fifth year as Michigan's head coach, Bo Schembechler led the team to a 10–0–1 record. It was Michigan's first undefeated season since 1948. The Wolverines outscored their opponents 330 to 68. Michigan was ranked #6 in both post-season polls.

The season ended with a 10-10 tie against Ohio State. Both teams entered undefeated, with the winner guaranteed a trip to the Rose Bowl. When the game ended in a tie, the Big Ten athletic directors voted in a secret ballot to send Ohio State to the Rose Bowl. Michigan athletic officials and fans were outraged, and Schembechler argued that Michigan was robbed of its on-field achievements. For months afterward, Ohio State newspapers were flooded with angry Wolverine letters and threats of lawsuits.


The argument for tOSU going to the Rose Bowl was Michigan was at home for the tOSU game that ended in a tie
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33952 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:10 am to
You're asking that question to people who live in a state that considered electing a politician who went to jail for being corrupt...
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22010 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:14 am to
Those guys in the 1970's had it pretty easy...

I think as long as there is this cult mentality that tries to channel those times when Michigan accumulated tons of wins against cupcakes, Michigan is going to struggle.

At least Harbaugh is an 80's guy...

They need a Saban/Meyer-type hire in a bad way.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34091 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:19 am to
Hughes was announced 2 wks ago right after Hoke was term'd. Know one was paying attention.
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:19 am to
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I've never understood why Michigan worships Bo Schembechler like they do, considering he never won a National Championship, only won 2 Rose Bowls (heck, Barry Alvarez won more), and didn't win a bowl game until his 12th season in Ann Arbor, especially considering how storied their program is.



A lot to do with his timing. Before he was hired, Michigan was in a down period. We were pretty average, stadium had trouble filling up, our program was trending down and Woody Hayes was kicking our arse.

Here comes Bo who from day 1 made it clear he wasn't going to back down from anyone including Woody. Bo winning his first matchup against tOSU when they were undefeated and ranked 1 or 2 began his legend, and the program experienced sustained (regional) success again under his tenure. He had a great love for this school and a great relationship with his players. By all accounts everyone who ever met him has good things to say about him.

It would sort of similar as if a coach came into Michigan today and turned us back into B1G title contenders every year and did well against Urban/Dantonio
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:21 am to
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You're asking that question to people who live in a state that considered electing a politician who went to jail for being corrupt...



Is it bad that I can't tell if you're talking about Michigan or Louisiana?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8514 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:35 am to
Can't wait for the day BAMA gets this desperate for a coach... the drama will be unprecedented
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69301 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:47 am to
Do you people not understand that michigan knew it was going to hire a firm from the get-go?
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:50 am to
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Do you people not understand that michigan knew it was going to hire a firm from the get-go?



Also that this firm was hired from the get-go. Not sure why it's being talked about nationally now, but everyone up here has already known the AD has been consulting with a search committee and recruiting firm in case he can't get Harbaugh
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