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re: Up and coming coaches who didn't pan out
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:22 am to texasaggie08
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:22 am to texasaggie08
Is Sumlin still cherished at A&M?
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:23 am to SMU Tiger Fan
I don't think the "didn't pan out" label is fair. Some guys are just better soldiers than they are generals. No shame in that.
Chiz, Boom, Shula, Dubose, guys like that are lights out coordinators just maybe not head man material.
Chiz, Boom, Shula, Dubose, guys like that are lights out coordinators just maybe not head man material.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:28 am to bamarep
Watson brown around forever but nothing really
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:36 am to phaz
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Dennis Franchione
Mike Price.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:40 am to slackster
Muschamp and Dooley for starters
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:48 am to EnoughAlready
How was Price an up and comer and the same with Fran?
I guess we have different versions of up and comers.
To me that is a coordinator that got a chance and failed. Not a coordinator that got hc then moved to another then to another then back to another.
I guess we have different versions of up and comers.
To me that is a coordinator that got a chance and failed. Not a coordinator that got hc then moved to another then to another then back to another.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:49 am to Thurber
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Muschamp and Dooley for starters
When was Derek Dooley ever an up-and-comer?
He was nothing more than a position coach before getting the La. Tech gig (at which he had a losing record), and it was even accepted at the time that he wouldn't have gotten the UT gig at the time if it weren't for his last name.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:52 am to sms151t
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How was Price an up and comer and the same with Fran?
I guess we have different versions of up and comers.
To me that is a coordinator that got a chance and failed. Not a coordinator that got hc then moved to another then to another then back to another.
This. Mike Price coached at Wazzu for 14 years, made them nationally relevant and took them to two Rose Bowls. In what universe was he an up and comer?
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:16 am to slackster
Al Golden was getting some pretty good hype going while at Temple, but has been average at Miami.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:21 am to Feral
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In what universe was he an up and comer?
The universe where football didn't exist in the pre-BCS era.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:32 am to jonboy
Remember when Tyrone Willingham started 8-0 in his first year at Notre Dame? Turned out terrible...
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:33 am to Jake88
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Al Golden was getting some pretty good hype going while at Temple, but has been average at Miami.
good call. al golden and turner gill are the exact same. had success at dog shite programs but couldn't replicate it at bigger program.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:50 am to Feral
Mike Price was not an up and comer. And he did pan out.
He won Pac 10 championships and went to Rose Bowls. At Washington State.
He won Pac 10 championships and went to Rose Bowls. At Washington State.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:09 pm to slackster
And yet they all have millions in the bank... 
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:14 pm to Jake88
You do realize what he has had to deal right? I truthfully believe golden has done a great job all things considered
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:20 pm to lsu777
Mike Archer!!!!! 
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:34 pm to texasaggie08
Would Skip Holtz qualify as someone who didn't pan out? Fired from USF.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:37 pm to sms151t
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Hawkins and Koetter were the best of the Boise coaches that went to the most dysfunctional place
Don't know much about Koetter but Hawkins was an unmitigated disaster and he really has no one to blame but himself. To be sure, CU's a tough place to win now given the almost complete lack of support from the administration but the facilities are ok and the campus sells itself.
No idea what kind of mojo Hawkins had going at Boise (ahem, Petersen) but he turned a bad situation at CU into a complete grease fire. The guy was a freaky, thin-skinned whiner who couldn't recruit worth a shite and cast his lot with a below avg QB who just happened to be his son. He also made some game day decisions that make Les Miles look like Vince Lombardi.
It's no accident his career is in limbo.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:46 pm to denvertiger
Remember when Bob Toledo was one game away from playing for the national championship?
And then he became a bad head coach at Tulane, even by Tulane standards.
And then he became a bad head coach at Tulane, even by Tulane standards.
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