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Speaking of disliking Democrats, try this rant on for size..

Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Forward Progressives.com

When you’re like me, and I’m assuming there are quite a few, sometimes you hit a point where you can no longer sugarcoat your political arguments. As you hear the same asinine statements constantly repeated, you just hit a point where you want to stand up and say, “Look you babbling buffoon, let me spell it out for you very simply.”Now, most times we can’t do this because the person who we’re debating is a friend or relative and we don’t want to be overly rude.Well, I’ve decided to do it for you.

Here are a few of my simplified responses to the ignorance by many on some key topics being debated in our country (and probably others as well):*Side note: I’m not going to cover most of the lies against President Obama, I did that previouslyhere.Gun Rights:I love when I see Republicans showing off some image of a group of “good ol’ boys” holding shotguns and hunting rifles with some caption like “Want to take our guns? Good luck!” That or someone holding a handgun with a caption along the lines of “Liberals, come and take this!”Attention all Fox News Sheeple:Obama never said he was going to take your hunting rifles or handguns away. He said he wants universal background checks, a ban on high-capacity magazines and a ban on assault weapons (a ban that every Republican President in the last 30 years, including Ronald Reagan andGeorge W. Bush has supported).

So, when you share these pictures, acting as if you’re “getting at liberal ignorance,” all you’re really doing is spreading an image around the internet that showcases how you–and any other Republican who sees it and thinks “EXACTLY!”–don’t know a damn thing about which you’re speaking.We’re Out to Preserve the Sanctity of MarriageUnless you want to make divorce illegal, don’t tell me about same-sex marriage “ruining the sanctity of marriage.”Divorce did that long ago.Marriage is a Sacred Bond Before GodAlright you religious radicals, I’ll take you on too.Let’s assume marriage is a “sacred bond before God”.First, that would eliminate any government involvement to define marriage. So your push for a government “ban” on same-sex marriage would be pointless.Second, there are millions of Christians who support same-sex marriage and many churches that would marry gay couples.

So isn’t that up to that particular congregation?Or do you feel your congregation should control all others?Which, if you feel your congregation should control all other religions (and rule every American), isn’t that a GIANT violation of the First Amendment, which gives Americans freedom of (or from) religion?Then if you feel your religion should control all others, and all Americans, you then support a theocracy and apparently oppose the United States and our Constitutionally protected freedoms.Because this country was largely founded to prevent, not strengthen, theocratic rule.Same-sex Marriage overallHonestly, I’m exhausted with the same-sex marriage “debate.” There is no debate.Procreation is not a requirement for the right to marry, nor are those who procreate required to get married.“Homosexuality is a sin” comes from religion.The term “traditional marriage” is defined from religious text.Our country does not establish laws based on religion.Therefore your “arguments” are invalid.The end.Republicans: The Party for Christian ValuesENOUGH!If you want to say you’re the party of “Christian values” and you worship Jesus Christ…Start by helping the sick, the poor, the needy—not opposing programs that do.Republicans are for Fiscal ResponsibilityNot even close. There hasn’t been a Republican President that’s balanced the budget since Dwight D. Eisenhower, who served from 1953-1961.Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush all drastically increased our national debt.

Republicans are the Party of Small GovernmentBig government regulations, they’re un-American! They’re unconstitutional and ruining your way of life!Unless that big government regulates:What language to speakReligion to followWhen life is createdWho can marryWho can serve in the militaryInvasive health procedures on womenThat we have prayer in schoolMosques aren’t built in certain locationsCorporations are peopleThe Patriot ActUnions don’t have rightsWhen alcohol can be soldThe requirement of an ID to voteThen those government regulations are just fine. How “small government” of you, Republicans!AbortionAbortion is a Constitutionally protected right.

That isn’t debatable.You might not agree with abortion, you might think it’s murder, you might think life starts at the moment of conception.It really doesn’t matter. Abortion is a Constitutionally protected right—end of story.So when you, and the party that you support, openly attempt to infringe on that right (or outright says they want to end abortion) you’re supporting a stance that violates a Constitutionally protected right.For more on the overall hypocrisy of the right wing’s “pro-life” stance, check out this in-depth article.The Debt Ceiling is About More Government SpendingNo, it’s not.

The debt ceiling is about our government paying our bills on money we’ve already spent.But guess what? Ronald Reagan raised it 18 times and George W. Bush raised it 7 times.

I Want Big Intrusive Government–That Never Does Anything Good–Out of My Life!Did you drive today? Did you take your children to public school? Did you enjoy a safe commute as you traveled thanks to traffic signals and signs? Did you whisk through your city or state on an Interstate Highway? Did you enjoy running water and plumbing that properly, and safely, disposes of waste? Did you get a college degree at a public university because it was much cheaper than a private one?Hey genius, that’s all government.Tax Cuts Create JobsNo, they don’t.

The rich don’t need more tax breaks, they want more tax breaks.But guess what? After you give them those breaks, they’ll want even more the next time. Isn’t that what Republicans are basically saying now? They had the Bush tax cuts for a decade, but now they want even more tax cuts.Their argument will always be, no matter the economic climate, they “need” more tax breaks to create jobs. Good economy? “Cut our taxes and we’ll create even more jobs.” Bad economy? “Cut our taxes and we’ll create jobs and save the economy.”Tax breaks don’t create jobs, demand creates jobs.It’s an endless cycle, and it’s why Trickle Down Economics is a failure.I’m going to stop there. I’m sure there are more, and one day I’ll probably do another article covering those as well.

But I highly encourage any liberal/progressive/Democrat (or anyone that’s simply sick of right-wing rhetoric) to share this article so that those who’ve driven you to the brink of insanity when discussing these issues can see a simple counter to their Fox News-fed bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29174 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:38 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:38 pm to
Downvoted:dr
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78666 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:38 pm to
No less ill-organized, feckless and inane than what our resident board liberals routinely post here, just longer.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 6:40 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9104 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

!Did you drive today? Did you take your children to public school? Did you enjoy a safe commute as you traveled thanks to traffic signals and signs? Did you whisk through your city or state on an Interstate Highway? Did you enjoy running water and plumbing that properly, and safely, disposes of waste? Did you get a college degree at a public university because it was much cheaper than a private one?Hey genius, that’s all government.Tax Cuts Create JobsNo, they don’t.





Idiots.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78666 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:40 pm to
That never gets old.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9104 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:41 pm to
nope.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:41 pm to
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ApexTiger







Perfect drivel
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31072 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

tl;dr
Posted by livewire
Member since Aug 2008
999 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:49 pm to
Christ!

Cliff notes?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53772 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:51 pm to
Here is some more fun reading:

Republicans Congress are obstructionist and now the Senate will join them. Now together they will stick it to the people.

After 5+ years of dedicating themselves to blocking, opposing or obstructing anything President Obama supports, 50 plus times they tried to repeal ACA, now with more power Republicans were suddenly going to become big fans of working with the president? Give me a break.

You have to be an absolute moron to believe that.

What Republicans will do these next two years is attempt to pass bills that they know the president won’t sign, then they’ll go on Fox News whining and complaining that President Obama refuses to work with them.

No matter what President Obama ultimately did on immigration, Republicans were never going to work with him. They didn't work with him when he was first elected, they didn't work with him when they took control of the House in 2010 and they damn sure weren't going to work with him during his last two years in office. Steve this is fact not fiction or a one sided argument. You can tell yourself some cool proverb, I ain't buying it you have sided with the obstructionist party that's a fact.

This is not right the way they have handled their duties in Congress you should be outrage by their action.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53772 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Cliff notes?


Republicans are bad people because they are greedy, evil, selfish, self-righteous and too stupid see it.
Posted by livewire
Member since Aug 2008
999 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:55 pm to
Oh.
SOS
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:57 pm to
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try this rant on for size..

There's some good stuff in that rant




Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:11 pm to
Always Fox.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:12 pm to
Several relevant facts sprinkled in amongst that mindless ragefest.
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4867 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:31 pm to
Cherry picking a few points to counter-

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ban on assault weapons


Only someone who doesn't understand anything about firearms would use the term "assault weapon" as it is completely meaningless.

quote:

Same-sex Marriage


Gay marriage is the window dressing for the creation of a protected class. Coming soon, gay quotas in hiring and admissions to prove you aren't discriminating against them.

quote:

Abortion is a Constitutionally protected right


Wat?

quote:

Trickle Down Economics is a failure


Except that it has worked every single time it has been implemented.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:22 am to
Your meds. Take them.

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