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Why Harris Failed in the Auburn Game - and Why He Will Fail Now
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:22 am
Les/Cam spent the week of Auburn prep putting him under center so he could run their offense. They took away the shotgun and roll outs and what he does best. They had him trying to be a game manager instead of an athlete who makes things happen. They don't know how to coach someone who doesn't adhere to their rigid system.
That is what took Mett so long to develop here. And, this is Miles' system - not anyone else's. That is obvious. Cam is running Miles' offense.
If they would just let Harris play and coach to his strengths and slowly bring him along in their offense, we would have the best of both worlds. But, Miles cannot do that. If a QB is not ready to run HIS offense, then he is not ready.
Jennings is capable of running Miles' offense, but he is a terrible QB. But, Miles would rather have Jennings run HIS offense than a better QB do what HE is good at and Miles have to adjust.
That is what we have seen for the past 10 years. When it comes to QB play, we do not play to the strengths of the QB. We make the QB fit Miles' system. Jennings can actually run, but there is very little of that called for him. Mett could not run and it took him a while to adjust and for the coaches to finally figure out what he could do. Still, we lost games (Florida in 2012, for example) because we would not let him play his game.
That is bad coaching. You have to adjust to your players. Harris could not run Miles' system against Auburn and he probably can't run it now. Thus, Jennings.
That is what took Mett so long to develop here. And, this is Miles' system - not anyone else's. That is obvious. Cam is running Miles' offense.
If they would just let Harris play and coach to his strengths and slowly bring him along in their offense, we would have the best of both worlds. But, Miles cannot do that. If a QB is not ready to run HIS offense, then he is not ready.
Jennings is capable of running Miles' offense, but he is a terrible QB. But, Miles would rather have Jennings run HIS offense than a better QB do what HE is good at and Miles have to adjust.
That is what we have seen for the past 10 years. When it comes to QB play, we do not play to the strengths of the QB. We make the QB fit Miles' system. Jennings can actually run, but there is very little of that called for him. Mett could not run and it took him a while to adjust and for the coaches to finally figure out what he could do. Still, we lost games (Florida in 2012, for example) because we would not let him play his game.
That is bad coaching. You have to adjust to your players. Harris could not run Miles' system against Auburn and he probably can't run it now. Thus, Jennings.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:25 am to AlaTiger
That game is misleading. I think we were down 17-0 and Harris had only thrown 1 or 2 passes. He never stood a chance because of mostly what you said.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:25 am to AlaTiger
You hit the nail on the head. Harris wants to be a wide open style QB and Les doesnt want that so he is keeping the horse in the stall. What a stubborn dumb arse.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:26 am to AlaTiger
I am a firm believer that if:
1) You had the next play ready to call in the second the previous play ended
2) Eliminated the "check with me"
3) Stopped substituting players every other down.
We would be a very successful team regardless of the scheme. We most certainly have the personnel.
I think out substitution patterns and "check with me" give away an enormous "tell" on offense that Les hasn't figured out yet or is simply in denial on. I bet most prepared defenses can figure out the play we are going to run based on our latest substitutions and how their defense is lined up before the check with me.
1) You had the next play ready to call in the second the previous play ended
2) Eliminated the "check with me"
3) Stopped substituting players every other down.
We would be a very successful team regardless of the scheme. We most certainly have the personnel.
I think out substitution patterns and "check with me" give away an enormous "tell" on offense that Les hasn't figured out yet or is simply in denial on. I bet most prepared defenses can figure out the play we are going to run based on our latest substitutions and how their defense is lined up before the check with me.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:26 am to AlaTiger
Have an upvote
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:27 am to AlaTiger
Good post, Ala Tiger. The whole system sucks. It puts our players in a terrible position. It is hard to believe we have this kind of lame and incompetent offensive scheme and coaching at LSU, which, last I checked, plays in a power conference.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:28 am to mmcgrath
quote:
"check with me"
This I just don't understand. We snap the ball with 3 seconds every time because we line up, then spend 17 seconds staring at the coaches to see if they want to change anything. Meanwhile, the defense is laughing because they know exactly what play is coming.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:28 am to Tiger Nation 84
Chip Kelly is a prime example of a offensive coach who plays to the strength of his QB. Miles on the other hand, wants a game manager and he knows Harris is a gunslinger, therefore, until Harris buys in, he'll sit.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:28 am to Tiger Nation 84
Well what I was told (here we go with this) was early in the season miles and co was practicing spread offense 70% of the time..then they would get to game and inexplicably would revert to this shite again. Person said he had no idea why they kept reverting during the game.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:30 am to AlaTiger
quote:
If a QB is not ready to run HIS offense, then he is not ready.
Doesn't take much to turn around and hand it to a RB. It's deeper than that.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:35 am to AlaTiger
They need to release him on the field and stop playing scared
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:40 am to AlaTiger
quote:
If they would just let Harris play and coach to his strengths
IMHO, this has always been one of Miles' biggest problems. Rather than call the plays that are best suited to maximize a particular players potential, he tries to force that player to conform to his antiquated idea of what an offense should be. He tries to jam a square peg into a round hole over and over again, and then doesn't seem to understand why it's not working.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:42 am to ccomeaux
this season is more depressing than 2008
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:44 am to AlaTiger
Les tries to mold the QB to his offense instead of tailoring it to the QB's skill set
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:44 am to AlaTiger
The problem is les recruits running quartbacks and wants them to be I-formation pocket passers.
Round peg/square hole
Round peg/square hole
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:44 am to AlaTiger
quote:I did find it odd that despite the fact that he came from a HS where he didn't go under center AND, more importantly, he had played very little under center in his appearances with LSU to that point, that we put him almost exclusively under center.
Les/Cam spent the week of Auburn prep putting him under center
One would've thought that a big part of the plan with a true Freshman QB was to make him as comfortable as possible in the early going.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:46 am to AlaTiger
quote:
Les/Cam spent the week of Auburn prep putting him under center so he could run their offense. They took away the shotgun and roll outs and what he does best. They had him trying to be a game manager instead of an athlete who makes things happen. They don't know how to coach someone who doesn't adhere to their rigid system.
That is what took Mett so long to develop here. And, this is Miles' system - not anyone else's. That is obvious. Cam is running Miles' offense.
If they would just let Harris play and coach to his strengths and slowly bring him along in their offense, we would have the best of both worlds. But, Miles cannot do that. If a QB is not ready to run HIS offense, then he is not ready.
Jennings is capable of running Miles' offense, but he is a terrible QB. But, Miles would rather have Jennings run HIS offense than a better QB do what HE is good at and Miles have to adjust.
That is what we have seen for the past 10 years. When it comes to QB play, we do not play to the strengths of the QB. We make the QB fit Miles' system. Jennings can actually run, but there is very little of that called for him. Mett could not run and it took him a while to adjust and for the coaches to finally figure out what he could do. Still, we lost games (Florida in 2012, for example) because we would not let him play his game.
That is bad coaching. You have to adjust to your players. Harris could not run Miles' system against Auburn and he probably can't run it now. Thus, Jennings.
I'm not disagreeing with most of what you are saying here. I just think that Miles' point of view is that the rest of the offense has been recruited and is suited to run the offense that he has in place. And that the QB is going to have to come and run the offense the rest of the team is suited too. I think he needs to change that some too, but I do think that is how he looks at the situation.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:46 am to ShortyRob
les is just a hard headed man. he doesn't adapt quickly, and when he finally does make the most obvious changes (co-dc's, crowton, welter at lb'er) it's too late.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:47 am to ShortyRob
it almost seems like they gave harris a bad game plan and threw him out there to the wolves to get the fans off of their backs and go back to jennings. here's your one start on the road brandon with 5 plays you can run with no audibles.
go win it sport!
go win it sport!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:48 am to ShortyRob
Harris best asset is his passing, but if we just put him under center to hand off then we are wasting his talents.
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