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re: Why Harris Failed in the Auburn Game - and Why He Will Fail Now
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:55 am to thejudge
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:55 am to thejudge
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Well what I was told (here we go with this) was early in the season miles and co was practicing spread offense 70% of the time..then they would get to game and inexplicably would revert to this shite again. Person said he had no idea why they kept reverting during the game.
Sounds like 1/9/12 when the players said later that they did not do what they practiced in the lead up to the game. They were perplexed about what happened to the gameplan that they had worked on so hard.
Makes no sense.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:55 am to AlaTiger
Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL. You and the other idiots who never made it past HS football should know this.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:57 am to AlaTiger
We either need Les to have an offensive overhaul or we need a new coach for this reason. Devising a scheme that best utilizes your QB's strengths is ideal. Cam and Les are choking their talents this season.
A successful option QB in high school should not be under center 95% of the time. Period.
A successful option QB in high school should not be under center 95% of the time. Period.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:57 am to AlaTiger
Well...Miles recruited Harris knowing all that so I guess Miles can either:
1. Get over it
2. Or start recruiting players that fit
1. Get over it
2. Or start recruiting players that fit
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:58 am to AlaTiger
Harris had thrown 1 pass and lsu was down 17-0. The next one was a 52 yarder. Then lsu scored. Auburn scored right back. Score 24-7. Lsu' next 2 plays. Run, run. Pass then punt.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:59 am to kbol34
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Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL.
Last time I checked, LSU plays COLLEGE football and is not in the NFL. Who cares what works in the NFL? And, Miles' system has 23 points in the past 3 games, so it obviously doesn't work in COLLEGE.
Why can't you have aspects of both? I am not saying get rid of the power running game. But, mix it with some other things. This isn't rocket science. The whole world can see what is wrong and LSU has elite athletes that can do a host of things.
Your analysis makes no sense. If the goal of LSU is to be a farm team for the NFL and go 7-5/9-3 every year and send 7-10 guys to the NFL, then fine. We are succeeding. But, if it is to be a good COLLEGE team, then we are failing right now.
Forget the NFL. Who cares?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:02 am to AlaTiger
I love the argument that spread O's don't win championships. Because what we are doing on O is flat out preventing championships.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:03 am to AlaTiger
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but he is a terrible QB
This is the one thing I don't agree with. Jennings has potential but just like with Harris Miles is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:04 am to AlaTiger
Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL. You and the other idiots who never made it past HS football should know this.
We do not run a pro system. We run the power I dive plays into a stacked box no matter what and when we do pass on third and long we are in the power I and running 1 receiver routes. Go watch the NFL and you will notice there is nothing pro style about our offense
We do not run a pro system. We run the power I dive plays into a stacked box no matter what and when we do pass on third and long we are in the power I and running 1 receiver routes. Go watch the NFL and you will notice there is nothing pro style about our offense
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:06 am to lazcreek
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Now Harris had thrown 1 pass and lsu was down 17-0. The next one was a 52 yarder. Then lsu scored. Auburn scored right back. Score 24-7. Lsu' next 2 plays. Run, run. Pass then punt.
And LSU's first couple of series were all handoffs with him under center, for the most part. VERY conservative. Auburn scored fast and LSU never recovered. We want to play this game where no one scores for the first quarter and then we eventually grind it down the field and wear a team down. Meanwhile, other teams are looking to score quickly and we are trying to do 15 play 80 yard drives every time we get the ball unless we can hit a bomb downfield. There is just too much margin of error and defenses are ready for it.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:06 am to AlaTiger
They should have never given him the start in that environment. He should be getting half the snaps at least from here on out. Jennings is not a starting quarterback in the SEC.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:07 am to ShortyRob
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I did find it odd that despite the fact that he came from a HS where he didn't go under center AND, more importantly, he had played very little under center in his appearances with LSU to that point, that we put him almost exclusively under center.
One would've thought that a big part of the plan with a true Freshman QB was to make him as comfortable as possible in the early going.
nah, would just make too much sense for the big dufus...
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:08 am to thejudge
quote:
Well what I was told (here we go with this) was early in the season miles and co was practicing spread offense 70% of the time..then they would get to game and inexplicably would revert to this shite again. Person said he had no idea why they kept reverting during the game.
Miles coaches scared. It explains everything, including the regression of Jennings and the Auburn game.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:09 am to Neauxla
I can see Les contemplating this for hours on end.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:10 am to uway
What is funny is that Miles says that Harris isn't ready, yet he threw him to the wolves in the most hostile environment in the SEC against the defending conference champions. Why not start Jennings and bring Harris in as the game progresses? Why not bring him in after that? Because he had one bad game he is done for the rest of the season yet Jennings has ALL bad games and keeps playing?
None of this makes sense, unless Harris is just cussing out coaches in practice and has lost the respect of coaches and teammates.
None of this makes sense, unless Harris is just cussing out coaches in practice and has lost the respect of coaches and teammates.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:13 am to AlaTiger
Upvote!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:15 am to Tiger Nation 84
quote:Which one?
Harris wants to be a wide open style QB and Les doesnt want that so he is keeping the horse in the stall. What a stubborn dumb arse.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:15 am to AlaTiger
miles does not see the scheme as the problem. miles has won over 100 games with this scheme. we just beat ole miss with this scheme and should have beat bama with this scheme. it will take a loss in one of the last 2 games to get miles to seriously rethink the scheme. as long as he was winning 10+ games a year then no one would be able to convince him to change what he believes is a winning formula.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:16 am to AlaTiger
Great post. Agree 100%.
It's just not rocket science. Spread it out with Harris and make the defense defend a true dual threat QB. Get Buga in space. LSU has all the potential in the world on offense. Les is holding these kids back. His offensive scheme prevents LSU from being great.
Just be aggressive! There is absolutely nothing to lose except in Les' case proving the majority of LSU fans know more about offense than a D1 coach.
It's just not rocket science. Spread it out with Harris and make the defense defend a true dual threat QB. Get Buga in space. LSU has all the potential in the world on offense. Les is holding these kids back. His offensive scheme prevents LSU from being great.
Just be aggressive! There is absolutely nothing to lose except in Les' case proving the majority of LSU fans know more about offense than a D1 coach.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:16 am to AlaTiger
As frustrated as we all are, I'm sure being Harris (and being a 19 yr old kid) is even more frustrating... If I was him, my patience would be at an end, and it would be very difficult to not let that show.
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