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re: Why Harris Failed in the Auburn Game - and Why He Will Fail Now
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:16 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:16 am to AlaTiger
I just made up some platitudes for the occasion:
- If you discourage your child from walking he's likely to end up a cripple.
- Clip a bird's wings and you'll have a lizard, instead.
- The answers are impossible where the test is incomprehensible.
- Blow me, Les Miles.
- If you discourage your child from walking he's likely to end up a cripple.
- Clip a bird's wings and you'll have a lizard, instead.
- The answers are impossible where the test is incomprehensible.
- Blow me, Les Miles.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:17 am to AlaTiger
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That is bad coaching. You have to adjust to your players. Harris could not run Miles' system against Auburn and he probably can't run it now. Thus, Jennings.
Was talking to my dad about this last night, actually. Why do we recruit dual-threat quarterbacks to run the fricking I formation? Why are we not playing to their strengths by incorporating shotgun, pistol, roll-out, read-option, etc.? For frick's sake, you recruited them because they are dual-threat athletes. From Russell Shepard on, we have consistently gone after guys that can run, yet we don't ever have them do it. Is it that Miles is incapable of learning a new offense? Is it that his coordinators are?
In college, you will only rarely have a time when the offense is as good, talent-wise, as what we had last year. You will only rarely not have to make adjustments to the playbook to have the strengths of your team shine.
Chip Kelly earlier this year mentioned how he doesn't have "a system," that he will make adjustments to the offense based on the quarterback he has behind center. Whether he's successful at that is another question, but he understands that jamming a square peg into a round hole never gets anyone anywhere.
Well, we have square pegs. Let's go find a square hole. frick.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:18 am to AlaTiger
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None of this makes sense
/game
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:19 am to AlaTiger
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hat is funny is that Miles says that Harris isn't ready, yet he threw him to the wolves in the most hostile environment in the SEC against the defending conference champions. Why not start Jennings and bring Harris in as the game progresses?
Also explained by coaching "not to lose" aka coaching scared. The week before, AJ had committed the cardinal sin of not protecting the ball. If AJ had just looked ineffective but not thrown INTs against NMSU, Harris wouldn't have come into that game or started vs Auburn.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:22 am to LoveThatMoney
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Was talking to my dad about this last night, actually.
I like that you have a speaking relationship with your dad.
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Why do we recruit dual-threat quarterbacks to run a power-fricking-I?
So other teams wouldn't get them. Duh.
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Why are we not playing to their strengths by incorporating shotgun, pistol, roll-out, read-option, etc.?
Are those in the system? The SYSTEM is what matters.
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Is it that Miles is incapable of learning a new offense?
You could have saved yourself some typing by excluding those last three words of your question.
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Chip Kelly earlier this year mentioned how he doesn't have "a system,"
LOL. I truly didn't get this far down into your post before my earlier "system" answer.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:24 am to BDtiger5
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We run the power I
LSU does not run a "power I"
this is a power I:
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:28 am to monsterballads
I like the Auburn system where hey, that guy in the backfield lined up behind the tackle... is he a running back or a receiver on this play? I truly don't know!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:31 am to thejudge
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Person said he had no idea why they kept reverting during the game.
Read Scott McKay's assessment of the situation on Hayride. In it he alluded to the fact that the problems with J. Lee and the pick-6s in 2008 messed up Miles's thinking, and it doesn't appear there's any going back.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:32 am to kbol34
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Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL. You and the other idiots who never made it past HS football should know this.
Weird...I don't see Manning rolling many one WR routes. I don't see that going on in NE, where they use their TE in the passing game. I don't see Andrew Luck utilizing a goal line formation from the 45 yard line. Hell, I don't see a smashmouth team like the Seahawks using it much either.
So which Pro teams are using this innovative style that Miles is so famous for?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:32 am to kbol34
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Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL. You and the other idiots who never made it past HS football should know this
Who gives two flying fricks what pays in the NFL? What wins games in college? That's what I care about. If that means we go to a run and gun or air raid offense, I don't give a shite.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:36 am to LoveThatMoney
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Who gives two flying fricks what pays in the NFL?
kids that you recruit that want to be developed for the NFL care a lot. Why do you think BAMA recruits so well?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:56 am to supatigah
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kids that you recruit that want to be developed for the NFL care a lot. Why do you think BAMA recruits so well?
bait taken.
See Megatron who played in a fricking triple option; Nick Foles who played in a spread; Tre Mason who played in a triple option/read-option; LaMichael James who played in a spread; all the talent out of Oklahoma that runs an uptempo spread; etc. etc. etc.
Bottom line is: talent shows. If Leonard Fournette were to run out of the triple option, he'd still be looked at as a potential first round draft pick. If Malachi Dupre did nothing but block for 80% of the plays and then go up and fight for balls like Megatron did at GT, he'd be one the highest drafted WRs. We put a bunch of kids into the NFL not because of the system we run, but because we recruit the best players and, at least on defense, we coach them up. Don't give me this "Why do you think Bama recruits so well" horseshite. They recruit well because they win. They send kids to the NFL because they recruit well. It's circular, but its catalyzed by winning. Period.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:03 am to AlaTiger
The Auburn game was simply a blueprint on what not to do when you have a young QB. You give him easy throws in the beginning to get his confidence up. What kind of offense are you running if you lack easy throws?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:21 am to Chimlim
Recruit players for spread.
Get o line coach to teach zone blocking.
Run toss dive.
Doesn't work well. shite pants
Get o line coach to teach zone blocking.
Run toss dive.
Doesn't work well. shite pants
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:24 am to Chimlim
I'm not sure Peyton Manning would have success with the shite show that is our offensive line.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:43 am to DBU
And we spend all that time for what? Are we seeing if they put to many men in the box? Can't be because we run the sMe plays into the gut anyway.
Coaches for other teams know Miles won't deviate. That's why a big talented line has so much trouble we play into the defenses plan.
Coaches for other teams know Miles won't deviate. That's why a big talented line has so much trouble we play into the defenses plan.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:50 am to AlaTiger
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None of this makes sense
Are you expecting Miles to make sense? He is the most confounding coach of any team I have ever followed. It is amazing. He speaks some language nobody understands and does things nobody understands. He constantly sets you up for the big let down. As a fan never believe a word that comes out of his mouth because 9 times out of 10 it is not true. He will drive a fanbase nuts which obviously he has done with this one.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:53 am to AlaTiger
I'm sorry but we were a passing team last year, and pretty damn good at it to.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:55 am to TigerDeBaiter
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Miles system is a pro system. That Oregon A&M crap doesnt work and most importantly doesn't pay in the NFL. You and the other idiots who never made it past HS football should know this.
Running up the middle with 9 or sometimes 10 in the box does not work either
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:00 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Don't give me this "Why do you think Bama recruits so well" horseshite. They recruit well because they win. They send kids to the NFL because they recruit well. It's circular, but its catalyzed by winning. Period.
Saban was on the job three weeks when he signed the Rivals #10 ranked class in the country. The year before Bama was Rivals #11. In 2007 Bama went 7-6.
They then signed the Rivals #1 class in 2008. Then they went 12-2 and finished #5. In 2009 they were Rivals #1 again and in 2009 they went 14-0.
then #5 in 2010
back to #1 in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014
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