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re: you dont need a gimmick to cook a steak

Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:47 pm to
so in your opinion, the uneven cooking comes from the cooking process, and not the actually sear?


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, but there was more than 1/16" of gray that the picture shows on some slices. I



and i attribute that to the sear. which is pretty unscientific, compared to the actual cooking methods, both which are the same.

maybe im wrong? But it seems like it can happen whether you sear it first or last. And on another note, the perfect cooked piece that you posted wasn't seared to my liking, so i guess it's a give/take. I'd rather have that crust on the outside and a slight piece of gray near the fat cap or marbling.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Your prime rib looks very appetizing, but there was more than 1/16" of gray that the picture shows on some slices


also, comments on Kosmos, which was a reverse sear? gray ring around the whole thing

do you think it was from the cook, or the sear? Kosmo, what do you think?
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

And on another note, the perfect cooked piece that you posted wasn't seared to my liking, so i guess it's a give/take. I'd rather have that crust on the outside and a slight piece of gray near the fat cap or marbling.


Get a MAPP torch and you never have to worry about your crust again. The real issue with most home Prime Ribs, LE (obviously not yours), is that most people's ovens fricking suck. Can't hold a temp, don't broil well, etc.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

also, comments on Kosmos, which was a reverse sear? gray ring around the whole thing

do you think it was from the cook, or the sear? Kosmo, what do you think?



I read his thread on it like a year ago, if I recall he ran short on time, had to bump the temp up, seared perhaps a bit too long, and didn't allow for a rest period. I'd have to go and look at his thread again, but he said it was a learning experience. My Prime Rib came out really great with that method. All about how much TLC you can give the project.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:52 pm to
i really do need to get a torch..always mean to grab one but forget
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

also, comments on Kosmos, which was a reverse sear? gray ring around the whole thing

do you think it was from the cook, or the sear? Kosmo, what do you think?


The gray ring is from the cook, it's unavoidable.

Minimizing the depth and variety of the ring is the purpose of the reverse sear.

Also, when I said "sear" I used a 550 degree oven for the sear since I don't have a BGE or anything else to sear something that big. That increased the gray ring since it's using basically dry heat to sear it. Not very effective.

I might use a torch this year, but convincing my mother that we are going to sear her $250 piece of meat that we are serving to 15 family members, I may encounter some resistance.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

i really do need to get a torch..always mean to grab one but forget


They are cheap and good for a lot of things around the house.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47377 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:03 pm to
Damn, Lester, I'd eat any of your prime rib. I don't mind a little gray!
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Damn, Lester, I'd eat any of your prime rib. I don't mind a little gray!


It's getting spicy in here. I guess the gin got opened early today.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

It just gives a better result in a much more consistent manner.
depends on the person doing the cooking, pal.
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

with all the board members hyping up shortcuts like microwaved roux, and adding kitchen bouquet for color, i'm shocked some of the same people are advocating an hour long steak cooking process.

Most of us here are home cooks...not chefs at Dickie Brennen's. If RS works for you, go for it. I've done it and I like the way it came out. I've also used KB and roux from a jar on occasion. If it works for me and TASTES GOOD, I'm gonna do it.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47377 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:56 pm to
Well, apparently my own comment went over my head.

What did I say other than that I'd eat the prime rib, with or without the gray?
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 1:58 pm to
GG...
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I don't mind a little gray!



have you met my friend OTIS2?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47377 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

have you met my friend OTIS2?




Yeah, I know the guy. He's gray if he's still got hair.

Okay, someone tell me what the joke is that I apparently made?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Okay, someone tell me what the joke is that I apparently made?




hey, you added the " " in the original post
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47377 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:04 pm to
Because I'd eat the gray part. Should I delete that?

Oh, and I don't know Otis in the biblical sense just to be clear!

I like him more than Artie does, though.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

I like him more than Artie does, though.


I like Otis just fine.

I just can't decipher when all the South Arkansas boys get together and start rambling about in-game threads and Mecca and Sonic.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37745 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:11 pm to
People that are from South Arkansas don't know shite about Mecca or Sonic, Poop.
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