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re: you dont need a gimmick to cook a steak

Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:24 pm to
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If you think the reverse sear is a gimmick, I challenge you to try it. I've used Ramsey's method for years and it cooks excellent steaks, but the reverse sear did it better.


Meh. I tried reverse sear for the first time friday night. Overcooked the steaks. Going back to the tried and true OG method. I was also trying to do this on a charcoal grill.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:30 pm to
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Overcooked the steaks.


I fail to see how that is an indictment of reverse sear.
Posted by Mr Fusion
The American Dream City
Member since Dec 2010
7457 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:37 pm to
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But all kidding aside, my dad is an excellent cook. I learned most of what I know by cooking with him and experimenting on my own. But the man can't cook a steak.
my mother. She buys expensive cuts and just fricking ruins them. But thinks they are delicious. She buys a filet, butterflies it, marinates it overnight, adds some mass produced salty and spicy steak seasoning, cooks it in the grill over low heat with the lid down, then cuts it open while it's still cooking to check it's doneness, then cooks it further to a nice dried out well done.

The worst part is that she loves it this way, and does it several times a month. Yet wonders why I never seem to want steak at home.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52782 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:40 pm to
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I fail to see how that is an indictment of reverse sear.


I don't need help overcooking a steak. I do that perfectly fine without doing the reverse sear. This method just guaranteed i overcooked them.

Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:45 pm to
only way to mess up a reverse sear is not knowing how to insert and read a thermometer
Posted by pookiebear
TX
Member since Apr 2014
342 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:09 pm to
I just get a piece of meat rub garlic and crystal hot sauce into it, and throw some black pepper on both sides.
I let it sit until its like room temperature then throw it in a cold skillet with maybe some butter. Cut that bitch on and take the steak off pretty quickly.

Am I wrong for any of that? I dont like open range grills. I like stove tops, guess im a wuss.

*edit: watched the vid on mute. Not gonna take advice from ramsay. Did not like what I saw. Confident I can outperform him on steaks. He dont wanna see me on iron chef
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136797 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Am I wrong for any of that?
not at all
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:14 pm to
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juices all drip off.


I melt butter in a small skillet with a little seasoning and just paint it on each flip...
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:34 pm to
I use the alton brown method. heat up the cast iron to 500 in the oven, put on the stove on high, about 45 seconds each side then put the skillet in the oven still at 500 for 2-3 minutes each side. rest under foil for 5 or so minutes.

comes out perfectly red and dripping after those 5 minutes. after about 10 or so times doing it I've gotten a pretty solid crust everytime.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:43 pm to
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too hot gas grill
There's really no such thing. I've read the ideal temperature for searing steaks is 700, and that's about as hot as my gas grill will get. Makes for a great sear.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71992 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:45 pm to
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only way to mess up a reverse sear is not knowing how to insert and read a thermometer



you realize you can do the same thing doing it over high heat? except it takes 10 minutes instead of an hour
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 4:50 pm to
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you realize you can do the same thing doing it over high heat? except it takes 10 minutes instead of an hour

Oh shite!
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:36 pm to
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BayouBlitz


Sorry didn't know we had a James Beard winner on the board. Next time Ramsay's in town I'll let him know you want to teach him a few things. I've got a buffalo nickel says you couldn't blind taste a traditional steak vs a reverse seared one.

I'm not saying it's not possible to make a RS steak taste good. The only justification I can think of for using this process is either to make up for poor skills or to make one look like a master chef to people that don't know any better.

And if this RS process was in fact the shyt I'm sure your top chefs/steakhouses would have adopted it by now.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76512 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:46 pm to
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And if this RS process was in fact the shyt I'm sure your top chefs/steakhouses would have adopted it by now.




Most people don't have access to 1100-1200 degree overhead infrared broilers.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24738 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:24 am to
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I'm sure your top chefs/steakhouses would have adopted it by now.


Most steakhouses can't afford to have people wait that long for a steak...
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63460 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:26 am to
I've been thinking about giving the reverse sear method a try. But every time I start to do it, I ask why? And I just go ahead and pan sear it. Turns out great.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117682 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:13 am to
I reverse seared a 2lb bone in ribeye Sunday.

People that aren't trying it, or knocking it, need to try as then knock it.

The only thing better is a cold smoked ribeye, which is basically the same thing as the reverse sear, but tastier.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:21 am to
Sounds like a bunch of people in here tried reverse sear and failed miserably. Possibly multiple times.

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117682 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:25 am to
I don't know how ya screw up reverse sear.

If you put two identical steaks side by side, one reverse seared and the other seared and finished off in the oven, most people would prefer the RS.

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