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re: IRS seizes business' bank account for suspected crime

Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:05 am to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:05 am to
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this isn't a DEM or a REP issue. this is a government issue. anyone who supports these laws hates freedom and believes in a police state.
This, but someone is going to tell you that you're wrong.

There is no reason for this type of rule. A warrant isn't hard to get. In fact, they might be too easy to get in many cases. People love to cry tyranny and bitch and moan about a whole host of innocuous shite. This isn't innocuous, and we hear almost nothing about it.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:40 am to
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Cash only restaurant. Deposits just under 10k and the owner even admits she was intentionally keeping the deposits under 10k to prevent reporting.


Remind me which crime she was found guilty of? TIA
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:54 am to
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Remind me which crime she was found guilty of? TIA



No kidding. If she is filling her taxes quarterly would a forensic accountant not be more effective? That way if there is laundering going on you can trace it. Take the money and the roaches scatter.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:59 am to
This is why you never deposit cash in the bank.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:29 am to
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This is why you never deposit cash in the bank.


Even though its perfectly legal.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:30 pm to
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anyone who supports these laws hates freedom and believes in a police state.



anyone who opposes these laws wants to cheat on their taxes.

Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:30 pm to
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Remind me which crime she was found guilty of? TIA



Remind me of when the law the money was seized under was repealed?

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My mom had told me if you keep your deposits under $10,000, the bank avoids paperwork.



Its a long line of tax cheats!


This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted by LSULaw2009
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Member since Feb 2008
1695 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:37 pm to
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Cash only restaurant. Deposits just under 10k and the owner even admits she was intentionally keeping the deposits under 10k to prevent reporting.


Remind me which crime she was found guilty of? TIA


I'm sure the charge will be structuring, aka smurfing, which is a violation of 31 USC 5324
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:42 pm to
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“Structuring,” as readers may recall, is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government. Structuring is unlawful whether or not it occurs in conjunction with any other legal offense, as opposed to being motivated by, say, a desire to keep a low profile in general or a sentiment that the government already keeps tabs on too many innocent activities.


...or because your Mommie told you to do it!

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This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 4:50 am to
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anyone who opposes these laws wants to cheat on their taxes.


cheating on taxes is honorable and praiseworthy
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:57 am to
This is an issue that the right (or left) should be talk sing about everyday.

First of all the Government should have to have more to go on than simply X amount of cash to suspect a crime. This is a direct result of the War on Drugs and an excuse for politicians and officials to not do the job they are being paid to do.

At the very least the amount should be adjusted for inflation. It sounds like this woman was having to make multiple cash deposits to stay under the $10k limit. In a predominantly cash business, like a restaurant, $10k probably makes almost all successful owners a criminal in the eyes of the IRS...adjusted for inflation that number should be be about $40k today.....a number that most small business owners would have no trouble staying under.
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