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FDB green thumbs, what's going on with this orange tree
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:44 pm
Moved into a new house that has an orange tree. At least I think it's an orange tree. Anyway the fruit are starting to ripen, and I tried one that fell on the ground and it tasted like an orange. But at the bottom of the tree, dragging a branch to the ground, are two gigantic fruits:
That's a small-medium orange for scale. What are these gargantuans? Grapefruit,giant oranges.. The tree's balls?
That's a small-medium orange for scale. What are these gargantuans? Grapefruit,giant oranges.. The tree's balls?
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:51 pm to TheIndulger
I know a thing or two about citrus trees, my stepdad has more than a handful. my best guess is what you said- tree balls.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 12:55 pm to Auburntiger
It could be a freakishly large lemon...I think the variety is ponderosa that gets stupid big. But it can also be a citron, aka etrog. The citron has ritual use during the Jewish holiday of Sukkot. We're the previous owners of your house Jewish? Once it ripens, you can cut into it and find out. A lemon will be juicy, a citron will be dry on the inside.
Grapefruit are usually rounder with smoother skin.
Another possibility is that you have a young satsuma tree producing what is colloquially called puffy fruit. Young trees sometimes set fruit that doesn't fill with juicy pulp, instead it is mostly white pith under a crazy thick skin. When you feel on the fruit, does it feel soft or firm?
Grapefruit are usually rounder with smoother skin.
Another possibility is that you have a young satsuma tree producing what is colloquially called puffy fruit. Young trees sometimes set fruit that doesn't fill with juicy pulp, instead it is mostly white pith under a crazy thick skin. When you feel on the fruit, does it feel soft or firm?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 1:11 pm to hungryone
Haven't squeezed it, but it is not smooth and has lots of ants on it. I'm pretty sure it's an orange tree- could lemons grow on an orange tree?
I've seen the freakish lemons you speak of. They can get huge.
I've seen the freakish lemons you speak of. They can get huge.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 1:54 pm to TheIndulger
Judging by the thorns some of the tree might have reverted to root stock.
Also, usually thorns are a sign of meyer lemon/lemon tree. Although I wouldn't base an opinion on the presence of them.
Also, usually thorns are a sign of meyer lemon/lemon tree. Although I wouldn't base an opinion on the presence of them.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:21 pm to fightin tigers
So it turns out huge, misshapen fruit can result from excess nitrogen....did you over fertilize the tree or a nearby lawn?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:40 pm to hungryone
I didn't but we just moved into this house. So the previous owner may have.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 2:51 pm to fightin tigers
Yeah it has some huge thorns. A branch could be a weapon.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 4:41 pm to TheIndulger
Again, it may be fine or that outgrowth may be coming from below the graft line.
Usually though, if the tree sprouted thorns that size it meant that the root stock had taken over and the fruit is likely to be compromised.
It will be fine to eat, but may be a lesser desired orange/lemon.
Usually though, if the tree sprouted thorns that size it meant that the root stock had taken over and the fruit is likely to be compromised.
It will be fine to eat, but may be a lesser desired orange/lemon.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:09 pm to fightin tigers
The orange I tried was a little tart..
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:53 pm to TheIndulger
That's root stock fruit. Garbage. Need to dig up the whole tree
Posted on 10/19/14 at 8:24 pm to tewino
Really? I tried one orange and it wasn't terrible
Posted on 10/19/14 at 8:26 pm to TheIndulger
If you really have to have an orange tree then rip it up. However, I might would let this ripen and see. Probably will be root stock, but it may not be horrible.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:06 am to TheIndulger
Hmmm...was going to guess papaya, but the leaves don't match.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:49 am to TheIndulger
my belief is you have the wild rootstock of a Satsuma growing and not the grafted tree. The wild Satsuma (root stock) is very thorny and I believe the fruit photo you show is the wild version.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:30 am to GrammarKnotsi
I've seen plenty of rootstock growth, and yes, it is very thorny. But it rarely produces fruit, and the fruit is typically small/stunted and dry/bitter. It's easy enough to tell if this fruit is from the rootstock or the grafted "good" growth....follow the branch bearing fruit back to the trunk. The trunk will show a noticeable thickening where it was grafted--it will look sort of like a knuckle on your finger: a gnarled spot. Does the odd-fruiting branch emerge from above or below this graft? If below, it's the fruit of the rootstock.
RE: rootstock taking over, you don't need to uproot the whole tree. Just cut back all the branches that are growing from below the graft. Remaining branches will still bear good fruit.
RE: rootstock taking over, you don't need to uproot the whole tree. Just cut back all the branches that are growing from below the graft. Remaining branches will still bear good fruit.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 10:47 am to hungryone
That is certainly not the La Native citrus rootstock. Fruit is kumquat sized, and full of seeds. Not sure WTF that is.
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