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re: Ebola prevention demonstration for medical staff
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Why does everyone seem to believe that every hospital in America should be fully equipped for a virus endemic to West Africa which has literally never shown up here before?
What's your point?
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:14 pm to lsunurse
quote:
They don't need to be.
But don't keep a patient you know that has ebola and expect your staff to care for him if they aren't properly trained for it.
Duncan should have been flown to one of the 4 hospitals that can care for this properly the moment his test came back positive.
Agree 100%.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:14 pm to moneyg
quote:I can't read minds, but it sounds like his point is that
What's your point?
quote:
not every hospital in America should be fully equipped for a virus endemic to West Africa which has literally never shown up here before.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:15 pm to lsunurse
quote:
Duncan should have been flown to one of the 4 hospitals that can care for this properly the moment his test came back positive.
Definitely a fair point.
My issue is not so much with those questioning the logistics of this whole thing, but with those who are lighting emotional fire with talks of epidemics and mass death.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:17 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
There is also the need for a totally separate ventilation system. I doubt many hospitals have such isolation rooms.
Why would you need a seperate ventilation system for a contact transmitted virus?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:17 pm to FT
quote:
not every hospital in America should be fully equipped for a virus endemic to West Africa which has literally never shown up here before.
Has anyone disputed that? I think the point many are making is that these hospitals shouldn't be the ones caring for these patients.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:19 pm to moneyg
quote:
They don't need to be.
But don't keep a patient you know that has ebola and expect your staff to care for him if they aren't properly trained for it.
Duncan should have been flown to one of the 4 hospitals that can care for this properly the moment his test came back positive.
Agree 100%.
Duncan was probably too sick to move and moving him would just expose more ppl.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
My issue is not so much with those questioning the logistics of this whole thing, but with those who are lighting emotional fire with talks of epidemics and mass death.
There doesn't have to be "mass death" for this to be a major issue for this country.
We are in a place right now where people are hopeful that the containment of this virus can be 100% and we can get back to zero known cases.
But, when healthcare workers are becoming infected, it's cause for concern. When a 2nd healthcare worker was allowed to board a plane after exposure to Duncan and within the incubation period, there is cause for concern. When there is reasonable question as to whether CDC leadership is performing adequately, there is cause of concern.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:26 pm to WeeWee
Body fluids....sneeze....snot, saliva and virus in the air....goes through ventilation system. Complete isolation means complete!
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:58 pm to conservativewifeymom
LINK
To anyone interested. The conference call I listened to is on there. As is statements from the nurses in Dallas on the conditions they worked in.
To anyone interested. The conference call I listened to is on there. As is statements from the nurses in Dallas on the conditions they worked in.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:12 pm to lsunurse
Wow. I really hope things settle down over there & the nurses are given clear, effective guidelines to properly care for these patients and protect themselves.
Also, are they now tracking all the patients that were open to cross contamination?
Also, are they now tracking all the patients that were open to cross contamination?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Why does everyone seem to believe that every hospital in America should be fully equipped for a virus endemic to West Africa which has literally never shown up here before?
Who is expecting "fully equipped"? Hell, I'd just take basic common sense after this...
1. Duncan was misdiagnosed.
2. Hospital staff has not been properly trained, yet are expected to put their lives on the line to treat any ebola case that comes through the door.
3. Exposed hospital staff are not being told basic preventive measures such as "DON'T TRAVEL."
4. People like Nancy Snyderman and some in Duncan's family don't think the quarantine rules apply to them and potentially expose people anyway.
Don't forget our President and CDC previously said we have nothing to worry about here, it likely won't reach our shores, but we are prepared if it does. It will be stopped in its tracks. I'm not in a panic by any means, but this is just epic incompetence on so many levels.
BTW, have we learned how the NBC cameraman contracted ebola yet?
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:It is a good question with an easy answer.
So, is it not true that one can only get ebola by consuming it through the mouth, sexually, or if it gets into eyes, ears, etc? How did Nina Pham get it if all her opening were covered?
If one were to take Beck's Ebola prevention demonstration (disclosure: haven't seen it) to its logical end, one would find an alarmingly reliable transfer from body locations to hands (assuming hands were even washed initially), and from hands to mouth, eyes, cuts, etc.
When talking about spread of coliform bacteria (Poo-Poo germs) in similar fashion, the subject of transference gets really nasty.
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