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Should we risk our doctors and nurses?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:19 pm
This likely wont go over well but....Its scary that people wearing full protective gear are still getting ebola. We have a finite pool of nurses and doctors who would be involved in the "treatment" of ebola. Should we risk their lives for minimal gain and high risk? They are a resource that can't be replaced quickly.
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:20 pm to TSS4LSU
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Its scary that people wearing full protective gear are still getting ebola.
This simply isn't true.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:20 pm to TSS4LSU
i say no from where i'm at right now.
but i'm not willing to let my kid die, or me for that matter, so the disease doesn't spread.
but i'm not willing to let my kid die, or me for that matter, so the disease doesn't spread.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:20 pm to TSS4LSU
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people
It's only one person. Calm down
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:22 pm to TSS4LSU
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Its scary that people wearing full protective gear are still getting ebola.
Where did you get this information..?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:22 pm to TSS4LSU
If we go that route, can we also stop sending enlisted men and women into combat?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:24 pm to TSS4LSU
You have the knowledge to volunteer?
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:25 pm to TSS4LSU
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Should we risk our doctors and nurses?
who should we risk? football players? custodians?
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They are a resource that can't be replaced quickly.
India has a billion people...half doctors and half telemarketers
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:37 pm to TSS4LSU
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They are a resource that can't be replaced quickly.
That said, your stupid question raises some deeper ones. At what point do we say no? Christ would tell you never. And those that have given an oath should say the same thing.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:44 pm to Artie Rome
quote:my wife is an RN. I'll be a mofo if she helps treat someone with Ebola. Oath my arse
That said, your stupid question raises some deeper ones. At what point do we say no? Christ would tell you never. And those that have given an oath should say the same thing.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:51 pm to TSS4LSU
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Its scary that people wearing full protective gear are still getting ebola
Not happening
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sk their lives for minimal gain and high risk?
Minimal gain? We don't have data on the effect medicine in the US/developed nations would have on mortality rate, but it's safe to say it would decrease it enough to be considered more than "minimal."
There's probably some that don't care, but it's safe to say most health professionals wouldn't want to watch people die helpless while sitting there doing nothing. There's a reason they go into the field to begin with, and it's not the pay.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:52 pm to Artie Rome
Its not a stupid question. Healthcare is not typically a dangerous environment. Most exposures are treatable. This isnt. The deeper issue is what should we do with a finite resource that would be wasted? Its an interesting ethical debate. I am one who took that oath and I want no part of this. I would not give up my life for any patient. All we can really do for these people is supportive care (fluids, fever control, oxygen, sedation). This is where robotic technology would be useful.
The soldier analogy is not useful. They signed up for a lethal job.
The soldier analogy is not useful. They signed up for a lethal job.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:03 pm to TSS4LSU
They choose the patients they want to see/admit. If a doctor or nurse doesn't want to treat an Ebola patient, they don't have to. There's obviously the pitfall in this argument that the undiagnosed Ebola patient walks into the clinic/ED, but that's just part of the job.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:06 pm to TSS4LSU
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treatable. This isnt.
It's far more treatable in the doctors who know they have it early on than in the patient who comes in bleeding from the eyes.
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All we can really do for these people is supportive care
With early, aggressive supportive care, these people may actually do quite well.
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This is where robotic technology would be useful.
An isolation room with a long IV extender works almost just as well. These aren't patients that need tons and tons of sticks. Administration through long IV lines from outside of the room would be more useful than robotics. And much cheaper.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:08 pm to Artie Rome
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Christ would tell you never. And those that have given an oath should say the same thing.
Whoah now. Let's not give doctors any more reason to compare themselves to Christ.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:16 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Let's not give doctors any more reason to compare themselves to Christ
patients come in to the ER at night with chronic BS and I tell the assholes I'm not your personal Jesus
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:21 pm to Lithium
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:23 pm to Lithium
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ER at night with chronic BS
These people make me hate my life.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:25 pm to TSS4LSU
It's their fricking job!
Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:25 pm to Schmelly
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Oath my arse
Do nurses even take an oath? They have unions and go on strikes for christ's sake.
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