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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.

Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 7:57 pm to
Did your preamp come in? Don't forget to get some RCA cables to go from the preamp to the receiver.
Posted by ag3ntpurpl3
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:26 am to
shite! I knew I forgot something at Best Buy!

It should be in tomorrow sometime so I'll go pick up some cables beforehand. Thanks for the reminder.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:22 am to
How do your records not fall out the sides of that shelf? Are the sides narrow enough?

Also, I'm thinking about getting a new record player. What's so great about the Uturn Orbit?
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:38 am to
I bought some heavy duty book ends from office max and use those. They are really thin but have long weighty bases that are good for holding the records. On the right side I use the beatles box set as a book end of sorts because it's so heavy. I liked the orbit for its price and minimalist design. At this point it was my intro table and for that price it was a steal IMO. Not a showy table but perfect for playing 33 and 45 rpm with great sound quality. Not ideal for upgrades, but I'm not really looking to make many upgrades right now.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:46 pm to
What headphones would you recommend for vinyl listening? I need them for listening at night when my wife is trying to sleep.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:12 am to
Budget?

I have 6 pair of phones, and they are vastly different. 3 are open back and 3 are closed back. If you will be sitting next to her, you should go with a closed back, as the sound from an open back will travel and she will hear what you are listening to.

With that, for under $100, the Grado 80i is hard to beat. They are extremely neutral. They are an open back design.

The least expensive closed back that I have are made by Focal. When I got them, Focal only made one model, and they were around $275 or so. That was a couple years ago and they have since come out with a couple more in the line up. I believe one is a little less $$ and one more $$. They are all closed back. They are my go-to phones when I fly. I usually run them with a portable ALO Audio amp connected to an iPod classic, but they are just fine without an external amp.

Beyerdynamic makes great phones as well, but are not cheap.

I also like the Bang & Olufsen phones as well--I believe they are in the $400-500 range.

And if you have the scratch, Audeze is the cat's meow!






Posted by LSUbacchus
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:48 am to
Thanks! I've been looking around for something and just haven't found anything that would fit in the space I have. This is perfect. You can't beat that price. When I get it set up I'll post the final product. Btw I just picked up the doors-strange days, Bob Dylan
-highway 61, Elvis Presley live at Graceland all in great used condition for 10 dollars at the flea market off of airline in Kenner.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:06 am to
I sometimes think I have a good setup and then see stuff like this. I just can't imagine owning that much high end audio stuff. It's like a dream setup for me. I'd like to listen to a McIntosh one day.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:34 am to
I will probably look to do open back because this will actually be for listening while she is upstairs. I have some decent headphones for airplane use and such. I just want to be able to have good quality when listening to vinyl. Maybe 400 to 600 range? Thanks for the suggestions.
Posted by ag3ntpurpl3
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:30 am to
I don't know if this will work seeing as it's a tinypic URL but finally got it all set-up, Shark (if it does work, I apologize for the mess/speaker placement; waiting for our first home to be built still):

LINK

quote:

SUB


They had a bunch of McIntosh setup at Best Buy when I went in my neck of the woods.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:32 am to
That video worked. Sounds like the preamp helped a lot. Does it sound good to you? Any audible humming or anything like that?
Posted by ag3ntpurpl3
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:35 am to
No humming. I can hear the pops/crackles in between songs; will have to mess with the gain and my speaker volume a little bit more.

I can't figure out what this "Input Cap" with option to push in for 100pF or out for 200pF or what the "Filter" with out being Flat and in being low cut actually do to the sound.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:41 am to
I will defer that question to Marco when he comes in here. I am sure he can help out with that, because I am not sure what that's for. And you will still have the pop and crackle of the record and honestly, I kinda like it.
Posted by ag3ntpurpl3
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:44 am to
Yea! I love the pops/crackles. It's the sign of pure sound and an indication you're listening to the medium. This Past Masters set sounds amazing.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:45 pm to
That stands for "input capacitance"

On many phono Pre-amps, you will see load settings and capacitance settings. This "load" acts as an electrical damping on the voltage signal from the cartridge.

Resistive load settings are for moving coil cartridges (MC) and usually range from 10 Ohms to 1000 Ohms. The rule of thumb is to select an impedance that is 10-20 times the moving coil cartridge coil impedance (look this up on the spec sheet on the cartridge manufacturer's website). So find one or two or three settings in that range and pick the one that sounds best to you. There are very subtle differences here--you may detect bass tightening or loosening or the high frequencies being veiled or unveiled with changes in settings.

Capacitive load settings are for moving magnet cartridges (MM) and range from 50 Ohms to 47,000 Ohms (called wide open in audiophile lingo). Again, play around with with the load settings and listen for subtle differences in sound...has the high/low end changed and how? Which do you prefer?

There is no wrong setting, per se, just what sounds right to you.

Enjoy the listen...
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:52 pm to
The low cut filter is like a subsonic filter--it cuts off all frequencies below a certain point (maybe around 40 to 80 hertz) as to aid in the lessening of the rumble associated with lower mass tables. A 10 pound turntable may pick up reverberations from the music being played in the form of very low bass notes. The low pass filter will cut the extreme low frequencies (often times not heard but only felt) to held prevent vibration of the table itself.

This is one reason for 100lb.+ turntables--they resist vibrations when very low frequencies are played.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:58 pm to
Agent purple....go back to page 6 of this thread and read what I posted about phono stages and what they do. They do more than just "boost" the signal. It may also explain the crappy sound you got without one.

Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 4:48 pm to
What about Sennheiser?
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:06 pm to
I personally don't own Senns.

I have heard NAD phones and they are fairly neutral as well.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:08 pm to
When you say neutral, do you mean like a good balance or what do you mean by that? Sorry about the million questions.
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