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re: About to put my son in drug rehab. update page 20

Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:28 am to
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
4112 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:28 am to
AA phone # in Baton Rouge = 225-930-0026. They can give you NA's # and talk to you about local treatment centers.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27350 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:30 am to
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Smackover, Just curious.Have you ever taken Suboxone?

Nope. But I have had to use it for treatment of opiate addiction and understand the pharmacology of the med. Psychological addiction is different from physical addiction. And yes, if someone were to be "hooked" on something...much better a med they can get legally without having to malinger and mislead healthcare professionals than an opiate. Now if someone is on a high dose of suboxone and suddenly quits, they'll feel bad. That's why I said a gradual wean down under an experienced physician is required. I do not rx it personally btw. I have to refer out here in Arkansas. Yet another example of BS regulation. I can rx the med a person gets hooked on, but not the one to get them off. But it is coming out (at least a very similar form) in a diet pill I can rx without any special designations and can even sample.

ETA-just the naloxone is in the diet pill. Not the buprenorphine. It can be habit forming and is controlled but does not stimulate your "pleasure" receptors the way a opiate does.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by Rowdy
The Quaters
Member since Dec 2006
703 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:30 am to
Wood lake addiction center in Ethel la.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27005 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:30 am to
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Palmetto in Rayville


My aunt asked me to call around being a nurse. Son is a meth head. I would say this x 100.

My cousin is a total turd and never went. It is pricey. But just talking to the person on the phone was night and day difference. Spoke to their intake supervisor on weekends who had to be a house supervisor. She would have sat there and talked to me all morning had I not ran out of questions.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167313 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:30 am to
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and talk to you about local treatment centers.



The only friends of mine that were finally treated succesfully went out of town and state. There were other factors, but getting a change of scenery on top of getting away from the influences and even their family was a huge factor in them cleaning up.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2430 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:30 am to
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maybe you should've done that in the first place and you wouldn't be in this situation......just saying


Obviously, you're not a parent.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48638 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:32 am to
In my experience with family members local just helped make new contacts.Out of town helped when they were ready.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27350 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:32 am to
Did he ever say what the substance being abused was?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167313 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:35 am to
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local just helped make new contacts.Out of town helped when they were ready.



Exactly
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:36 am to
I've got an old friend (feels more like an acquaintance now. I need to mend that) who cleaned up in one in BR. I'll see if I can find out.

I cleaned up 16 yrs ago. He has to want it. What brought your family to this point? Was his experience tragic enough to elicit change?

Asking these questions so u think about it. You've got to prepare yourself to not give up on him if this doesn't work.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19314 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:36 am to
Teen Challenge in NO has done wonders for a friend of mine
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:37 am to
When I was young (about 16-22) I had addiction problems and I honestly just grew out of it. It was as simple as just realizing I had to stop being a dumbass!

Hope your son has the same experience. Sorry to hear it. I know it's as hard as it gets on you and your family.
Posted by Tommy Wayne
Member since Apr 2009
208 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:37 am to
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Palmetto, bring him up here. They will clean him up.


I don't post, but this is the truth. It's costly, but you'll leave a better, changed person. It's one of the best facilities in the country.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:39 am to
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Take him way out of town.


This shouldnt be a question, keeping him in a place where he knows people isnt gonna work...
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27350 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:40 am to
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don't post, but this is the truth. It's costly, but you'll leave a better, changed person. It's one of the best facilities in the country.


quote:

Palmetto

Where is this?
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75465 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:43 am to
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There were other factors, but getting a change of scenery on top of getting away from the influences and even their family was a huge factor in them cleaning up.



Definitely. A friend went through similar thing, moved to a different part of MI for a summer, but really helped him out big time.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:45 am to
If you are doing this to get him out of teouble, it won't work. If he is all in and decided he WANTED help, then you have a shot.

Seriously, it's a waste of time and money if he isn't asking for help.

What's the substance of his addiction?
Posted by Kritten
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
1594 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:46 am to
I do not have any recs for treatment centers but I have the highest respect for you sir. While it is all up to your son now, you being there is the difference maker.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:48 am to
There are just too many unknown factors for me to make a good recommendation here. Depending on your child's age the idea that they "are not ready" may or may not be a roadblock to recovery. And the drug of choice also plays a big role in what I would tell you.

If your kid has just been fricking up on a bad run for a couple of months you might just need to calm down and go speak with a couple of counselors. You can call Hidalgo Health Associates in Baton Rouge for a meeting and they will assess the situation and give some options.

I recommend against Townsend. It is pretty much a suboxone clinic. If you decide on treatment you want a 12 step based program.

As for inpatient, Woodlake in Ethel is owned by Randy Gomez, but Dr. Cataldie is the medical director and their addiction guru, Dr. Tommy Estis is brilliant. They are going through some major staffing changes though. It is primarily young patients with opiate addictions. They don't advertise this fact but it is essentially a 45 day program.

Palmetto is recognized as one of the best treatment centers in the country. It is a 90 day program and they have many older professionals as patients. From what I understand the medical board and state bar highly recommend it to their members that are in trouble.

As length of treatment goes up, so do success rates. A 30 day program has much less success than even a 45 day program. A 90 day program has more than double the success of 45.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 7:55 am
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:56 am to
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Did he ever say what the substance being abused was?


I wouldn't be surprised if the kid got caught with a joint.
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