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"Out Athlete" the opponents at WR - Gameplan Concepts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:23 pm
Here is an X's and O's perspective that is quite simple to implement and very difficult to defend:
We are fortunate to have 4 skilled WRs that all do different things:
- Dural: Speed for days and good size. He can get behind any defense in the country. He is a very important key to this offense. Stretches the defense.
- Malachi: Super athelete. 6'4, 35+ inch vertical, good ball skills. If he high-points the ball, then very few defenders have a chance.
- Quinn: He is your 'do it all' - runs very good routes, above average hands, quick and has deceptive speed. Perfect for the slot.
- Diarse: Physical, so far pretty dependable
The read for the QB needs to be simple since they are so young. Here it is in a nutshell:
1) Where are the safeties? If they are back 10 yards off the LOS, then we have to be able to run the ball. If we cannot, then it is game.set.match. You have to be able to create space and run against a front 7 especially with the talent we have at RB and supposedly have at OL.
2) If one safety comes up, then throw the ball where he came from. If a SS is up to support against the run, then it means, by default, the WR on the outside is 1-on-1 with a CB. Especially if this is Dural, you have to trust your WR is going to "out athlete" the cover corner. Throw is up and let him make a play.
3) If both safeties are back, then you can easily scheme the defense into 1-on-1 matchups. Quinn is the key here - he is the slot guy that is matched against a 3rd/4th CB or a LB. This is a mismatch and Quinn can beat this defender more times than not. Run Quinn up the seam and force the safety to make a decision. If the safety helps on Quinn and stays near the hash, then the read is instantly to the outside WR - 1 v 1 - and you let your guy go make a play.
4) If the safety is shading to the outside WR, then it means the seam is going to be open because Quinn/Diarse can beat their 1v1 matchup.
If defenders are giving Dural 10 yard cushions so they don't get beat deep, then take the 7 yard curl and say 'thank you, may I have another'. Dural scares the crap out of the defense...if they play bump and run, then he beats them deep consistently. Therefore, they respect it and the curl and backshoulder are open most of the game.
These are simple reads that any QB should be able to make. They should also be able to audible with a hand gesture at the line based on what the safeties and CBs are doing.
Selection of Pre-Snap Reads:
1) Safeties back - run the ball.
2) Safety up - throw to his side
3) Corners back - curl, back shoulder or slant
4) Safety favors outside WR - hit the slot seam
5) Safety back, Corners back - slot seam, run a dig route (the seam runs the defender off creating space for the dig by the outside WR)
Sorry for the length. These are the concepts that are easy to execute at the college level when you have the talent to exploit the defense. LSU has the talent at WR - and the QB can make quick reads that get the ball out of his hands.
Interested in the boards thoughts.
We are fortunate to have 4 skilled WRs that all do different things:
- Dural: Speed for days and good size. He can get behind any defense in the country. He is a very important key to this offense. Stretches the defense.
- Malachi: Super athelete. 6'4, 35+ inch vertical, good ball skills. If he high-points the ball, then very few defenders have a chance.
- Quinn: He is your 'do it all' - runs very good routes, above average hands, quick and has deceptive speed. Perfect for the slot.
- Diarse: Physical, so far pretty dependable
The read for the QB needs to be simple since they are so young. Here it is in a nutshell:
1) Where are the safeties? If they are back 10 yards off the LOS, then we have to be able to run the ball. If we cannot, then it is game.set.match. You have to be able to create space and run against a front 7 especially with the talent we have at RB and supposedly have at OL.
2) If one safety comes up, then throw the ball where he came from. If a SS is up to support against the run, then it means, by default, the WR on the outside is 1-on-1 with a CB. Especially if this is Dural, you have to trust your WR is going to "out athlete" the cover corner. Throw is up and let him make a play.
3) If both safeties are back, then you can easily scheme the defense into 1-on-1 matchups. Quinn is the key here - he is the slot guy that is matched against a 3rd/4th CB or a LB. This is a mismatch and Quinn can beat this defender more times than not. Run Quinn up the seam and force the safety to make a decision. If the safety helps on Quinn and stays near the hash, then the read is instantly to the outside WR - 1 v 1 - and you let your guy go make a play.
4) If the safety is shading to the outside WR, then it means the seam is going to be open because Quinn/Diarse can beat their 1v1 matchup.
If defenders are giving Dural 10 yard cushions so they don't get beat deep, then take the 7 yard curl and say 'thank you, may I have another'. Dural scares the crap out of the defense...if they play bump and run, then he beats them deep consistently. Therefore, they respect it and the curl and backshoulder are open most of the game.
These are simple reads that any QB should be able to make. They should also be able to audible with a hand gesture at the line based on what the safeties and CBs are doing.
Selection of Pre-Snap Reads:
1) Safeties back - run the ball.
2) Safety up - throw to his side
3) Corners back - curl, back shoulder or slant
4) Safety favors outside WR - hit the slot seam
5) Safety back, Corners back - slot seam, run a dig route (the seam runs the defender off creating space for the dig by the outside WR)
Sorry for the length. These are the concepts that are easy to execute at the college level when you have the talent to exploit the defense. LSU has the talent at WR - and the QB can make quick reads that get the ball out of his hands.
Interested in the boards thoughts.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:24 pm to lynxcat
It looks like we found our next coach!
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:24 pm to lynxcat
Soooo? How much do you want a year to wear a headset and hold a play chart on sidelines?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:25 pm to lynxcat
Agree on all points. The offense lacks routes between the hashes. Can still go 3 or 4 wide and be under center handing off, but with options to throw if defense cheats run.
Great post.
Great post.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:25 pm to lynxcat
quote:
Diarse: Physical, so far pretty dependable
Displayed some alligator arms on Saturday. Hope he works through that
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:26 pm to lynxcat
If you e-mailed that to CLM, he'd right TOSS DIVE in big red letters diagonally across the page.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:27 pm to TigerBaitTx
quote:He doesn't need a play chart...the plays are memorized for quick reference.
How much do you want a year to wear a headset and hold a play chart on sidelines?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:28 pm to raisinbran
LSU corners back - run at them, they can't/won't tackle
LSU corners up - run at them, they can't/won't tackle
LSU corners up - run at them, they can't/won't tackle
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:28 pm to lynxcat
makes too much sense, not gonna happen. Run twice up the middle into a stacked line and throw it on 3rd and long
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:29 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Or he would write TL:DR and throw it in the shred pile.
If you e-mailed that to CLM, he'd right TOSS DIVE in big red letters diagonally across the page.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:30 pm to kmh5star
quote:
LSU corners back - run at them, they can't/won't tackle
LSU corners up - run at them, they can't/won't tackle
The LSU defense is another topic altogether and you naturally should gameplan based on an opponents strengths and weaknesses.
The plan against the LSU defense is quite simple: Run the read / power right at the heart of the defense and force young DTs and overmatched MLB to stop you for 4 quarters.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:40 pm to lynxcat
quote:We certainly don't do this...a team gives up a mile worth of yards against UAB thru the air and we pound the rock into multiple 1st Qtr 3 n outs...
should gameplan based on an opponents strengths and weaknesses.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:40 pm to lynxcat
The running game is another interesting thing to gameplan. I think we could run a damn good stretch play and the toss dive should be scrapped from the playbook. Also, love the zone read and power (pulling guard) out of shotgun.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:44 pm to lynxcat
quote:
- Quinn: He is your 'do it all' - runs very good routes, above average hands, quick and has deceptive speed. Perfect for the slot.
- possession receiver
- character guy
- like a 2nd coach on the field
- gym rat
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:48 pm to lynxcat
Solid post.
And Dupres vert is 41inches.... Got hops.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:48 pm to lynxcat
quote:
The running game is another interesting thing to gameplan. I think we could run a damn good stretch play and the toss dive should be scrapped from the playbook. Also, love the zone read and power (pulling guard) out of shotgun.
Honest question. Are you a coach? I don't know half of what you're talking about, but it sounds legit. Might be useful to have someone to ping for commentary during games.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:49 pm to lynxcat
What is depressing is none of this will ever happen
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:49 pm to lynxcat
quote:At least we tried a new running play last week when Jennings faked to Magee on a sweep...
The running game is another interesting thing to gameplan. I think we could run a damn good stretch play and the toss dive should be scrapped from the playbook. Also, love the zone read and power (pulling guard) out of shotgun.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:51 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Honest question. Are you a coach? I don't know half of what you're talking about, but it sounds legit. Might be useful to have someone to ping for commentary during games.
Not a coach, but I have always over-analyzed things my entire life...passion for college football made it an area that was a natural fit
For anyone that has ever sat next to me during a game, you probably hear me yell more thing pre-snap than anything else. These things are very easy to see from the stands (hence why Cam sits in the pressbox).
Yes, happy to give feedback during the game.
I was going nuts on the 2 point conversion attempt where we tried to get the ball to Quinn. It was the exact play we ran against Wisconsin. It is a great play but we needed to add a wrinkle to it. If Quinn had run a pivot route rather than just a flat, then we convert it (for example).
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:54 pm to monsterballads
quote:
What is depressing is none of this will ever happen
We saw a little of it at the end of the MSU game.
The Malachi touchdown was the best example this year of "out athlete" the defender. He wasn't open, but it was 1-v-1 and and he is a bigger more athletic player than the defender...and he caught the ball.
The 3rd to last play, MSU was dropping 8 and they were still scared of Travin beating them deep so he ran a 20 yard comeback and Harris threw a zinger for the completion.
Harris made a couples throws that were NFL caliber.
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