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re: lying about your act score

Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by RC
Member since Apr 2009
957 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:12 pm to
Sometimes I lie and say I got a 32 because I'm afraid they will think I'm too smart if I tell them my real score.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Curious on the right thing to do


Telling the truth is the right thing to do.
Posted by Feed Me Popeyes
Baltimore, MD
Member since Apr 2008
2104 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Curious on your thoughts about lying about your act score on a job application/interview?


I'd tell them whatever number I felt gave me the best chance of getting hired for that particular position. And because it's such a stupid question in the first place, I'd do so unapologetically

Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:44 pm to
If I had a candidate lie, I'd pass his name and his actions to every place I could in my industry. Plus I'd contact the school if he was undergrad.

Don't be an idiot. Explain your situation. I'd personally appreciate the honesty and give you an interview because of it
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:47 pm to
I've personally seen someone put into an extremely high position after lying on their resume.

Smart kid that dropped out of Auburn because of partying. He's been employed over 5 years with the company now and they never found out.

If you don't have anything to lose, its worth the lie.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
I'm sure there are tons of people who have lied, that's a poor excuse. If you play it as a numbers game, that's even worse, shows complete lack of moral compass. I highly doubt he had nothing to lose, sounds like a lazy person who wanted to take a short cut.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:56 pm to
I completely agree from a moral standpoint and you also bring up a good point about laziness.

However, I do think he made the right decision for himself and understand why he did it.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24131 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:44 pm to
BCG, Bain and McKinsey all require ACT/SAT scores. Need a 32 to get an interview if you are from a non-target school.

Even if you are an experienced professional.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26575 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

BCG, Bain and McKinsey all require ACT/SAT scores. Need a 32 to get an interview if you are from a non-target school.

Even if you are an experienced professional.


Wow--did not know that
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

BCG, Bain and McKinsey all require ACT/SAT scores. Need a 32 to get an interview if you are from a non-target school.


This wasn't always the case. Now, I know a few companies want SAT scores (never heard of them wanting ACT scores - SAT is more intended to be an aptitude test so you should always score about the same).

I still maintain my point: any company that wants an ACT/SAT score, will not be a company I interview with.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:27 pm to
I've been asked about it by a few boutique consulting firms.

Smaller places that have smaller recruiting budgets can easily use an ACT/SAT score a as a metric to get a general idea of your aptitude without having to bring you in to take a fancy in house aptitude test.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

still maintain my point: any company that wants an ACT/SAT score, will not be a company I interview with. 



What are your scores?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24131 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Wow--did not know that



I scored a tad below that and was asked by a recruiter to retake it to get an interview.

It was either retake the ACT and get a 32 or take the GMAT and score at least a 700.
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:49 pm to
Heard the gmat is easier than the act
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:50 pm to
Barry you work/worked in investment banking I have some questions how I can I reach out to u
Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:22 pm to
Was it BCG? I would apply there in BR if I ever want to move back home, but don't have a 32.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24131 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:47 pm to
Yes.

The phone call I had with the recruiter was classic. I won't post it but ask me about it IRL.

You could superscore your ACT and that wouldn't be lying but is the only way to embellish it.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

I was diagnosed with a learning disability after I took it and my teachers helped me figure out were the problem was. I could've got into four year schools but committed to a juco for wrestling for alot of reasons. Once I committed I was done retaking any sort of test.


You can retake it if it is that important. There isn't an age limit, your 70 year old grandfather could sign up for the test.
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:50 pm to
I have worked in private equity this past year and still doing it so not worried or feeling pressure to take it
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 3:04 pm to
Do. Not. Lie. The size of the reward (ie, salary or how bad you want said position) should not override your basic honesty. If a single metric from a decade ago is so important, they're also going to highly prize your basic honesty. ESPECIALLY if said job involves other people's money.

I can't believe any professionals (ie people in fields with licensing requirements) would suggest otherwise.
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