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Nick Gillespie of Reason: Cops should wear cameras 24/7

Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:39 pm
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Each of these incidents has an unmistakable racial dimension—all of the victims were black and all or most of arresting officers were white–that threatens the always tense relationships between law enforcement and African Americans. As important, the circumstances of each death are hotly contested, with the police telling one story and witnesses (if any) offering up very different narratives.

Brown’s death in particular is raising major ongoing protestsprecisely because, contrary to police accounts, witnesses claim that he had his hands up in the air in surrender when he was shot. The result is less trust in police, a situation that raises tensions across the board.

While there is no simple fix to race relations in any part of American life, there is an obvious way to reduce violent law enforcement confrontations while also building trust in cops: Police should be required to use wearable cameras and record their interactions with citizens. These cameras—various models are already on the market—are small and unobtrusive and include safeguards against subsequent manipulation of any recordings.


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As Reason's Ronald Bailey pointed out last year, "Watched cops are polite cops." One study he cites found that wearing cameras by Rialto, California cops reduced use of force incidents by 60 percent and complaints against police by 88 percent.

And as Reason's Paul Detrick learned by talking with former Seattle cop Steve Ward, "Everybody behaves better when they're on video." Ward is the head of Viewvu, a company that makes wearable cameras for law enforcement.


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Who's watching the Watchers? I think this may be the only way to penetrate the blue wall and hold cops accountable.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:40 pm to
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I think this may be the only way to penetrate the blue wall and hold cops accountable.
If I was a cop I would want to wear one.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:41 pm to
I edited to add a para...apparently the benefit cuts both ways.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:41 pm to
Many do but "forget to record" when they know they're in the wrong.

They also want to film you but when you film them they get pissed.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:41 pm to
Even if they did, I guarantee you the cameras would "malfunction" more than McDonalds shake machines.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50240 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:43 pm to
This will never work.

Like any other state/govt official with power, they will just "lose" the video.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Even if they did, I guarantee you the cameras would "malfunction" more than McDonalds shake machines.


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Many do but "forget to record" when they know they're in the wrong.


They shouldn't have an option.

quote:

They also want to film you but when you film them they get pissed.


As long as someone is filming.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:50 pm to
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They shouldn't have an option.


I agree but things happen

quote:

As long as someone is filming.


They'll put an end to that quickly
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:50 pm to
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This will never work.

Like any other state/govt official with power, they will just "lose" the video.


Never? Sure there will still be corruption and problems, but I wouldn't say it would have zero effect. I think if the video was recorded to a secure server not under cop control you could circumvent some of those issues. Also if a cop turns off his camera then kills someone there would be an indication of foul play.

Youre too pessimistic.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50240 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:53 pm to
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Youre too pessimistic.


Dude,

The friggin IRS "lost" incriminating emails.

Fricking Emails!!

If our "leaders" are able to do away with something as "intangible" as emails on multiple servers, I have no doubts whatsoever a video that is not backed up can disappear.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
So no solutions, no change because it won't work...status quo. Got it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421641 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Cops should wear cameras 24/7

this works, and both ways

if a kid is being a obtuse punk, the cops will be able to explain in objective terms

if the cop is being a complete a-hole the citizen will be able to display this in objective terms
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134843 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Youre too pessimistic.


You should come back to Earth.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
Its certainly better than not having them at all.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:55 pm to
It's a workable solution and with current technology it's not that expensive.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

You should come back to Earth.


OK, let's do nothing but keep it as it is and bitch that it won't work. The article cites concrete examples of it actually fricking working. READ MFers.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 1:59 pm to
Aside from cost, there would literally be no down side. Although now that I think about it, personal camera equipment seems like a much better investment for police departments than MRAPs, body armor and grenade launchers.
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:02 pm to
I can see it now:

"But Chief, I got some of my jelly donut on the lens. That's why you can't see me doing something unethical..."
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:04 pm to
I'm with you, if they can afford shoulder to air rockets and armored Humvee's, they could better spend their money on camera's. The camera's would give a real view to the situation compared to the SOMETIMES blurred and one sided story, keeps everyone honest.
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