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re: Nick Gillespie of Reason: Cops should wear cameras 24/7
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:04 pm to cwill
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:04 pm to cwill
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So no solutions, no change because it won't work...status quo. Got it.
Didn't say that. Don't Rex me, dude. LOL
I'm saying, if it comes down to a cop having a video, count on it disappearing if he's in the wrong. Also count on the citizen being threatened.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:04 pm to mmcgrath
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If I was a cop I would want to wear one.
I know several cops and they all feel this way.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:29 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
You said it would never work. Well a study of a police department that started videoing:
Not working?
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One study he cites found that wearing cameras by Rialto, California cops reduced use of force incidents by 60 percent and complaints against police by 88 percent.
Not working?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:33 pm to cwill
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LINK
Who's watching the Watchers? I think this may be the only way to penetrate the blue wall and hold cops accountable.
They'll just turn the camera off when they want to beat someone's head in.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:42 pm to cwill
reason magazine ftw...that guy speaks to me
though I'm not too sure people here would like his immigration stance
though I'm not too sure people here would like his immigration stance
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:01 pm to mmcgrath
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If I was a cop I would want to wear one
I agree!
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:03 pm to SpidermanTUba
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They'll just turn the camera off when they want to beat someone's head in.
How would the cop account for the missed time?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:09 pm to cwill
I think this is a great idea, especially since so many PDs seem to be embracing the idea of putting cameras up in public places and filming e general public 24/7 and even using this surveillance to issue citations as they do with traffic cams. What's good for e goose is good for the gander. They don't have a leg to stand on in their opposition to being recorded.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:16 pm to Pinecone Repair
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How would the cop account for the missed time?
By counting the days he's out of a job.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:22 pm to Jcorye1
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By counting the days he's out of a job.
I totally agree!!!
I just wanted spidermanTUba PhD to consider that they would have to answer for the "gap". Its not like missing footage from an attack would help the cop's side.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:41 pm to Shoat Nuff
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I think this is a great idea, especially since so many PDs seem to be embracing the idea of putting cameras up in public places and filming e general public 24/7 and even using this surveillance to issue citations as they do with traffic cams. What's good for e goose is good for the gander. They don't have a leg to stand on in their opposition to being recorded.
THIS!
If they wanna use cameras to write tickets and create revenue, they can damn well wear a camera to create an accurate record of police actions.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:45 pm to Pinecone Repair
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How would the cop account for the missed time?
The cops I know that wear them are only required to turn them on when they exit their squad car. I imagine it'd be pretty easy to just forget.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:48 pm to cwill
quote:Support. This should be started in every single city.
Cops should wear cameras 24/7
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:If they forget, they get fined/lose pay. They would remember every single time after that.
The cops I know that wear them are only required to turn them on when they exit their squad car. I imagine it'd be pretty easy to just forget.
I also support forcing cops to follow speed limits. If their car exceeds the speed limit by 5 mph when they are not on an active call, they should be fined.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:51 pm to Scruffy
They also say they never forget. They actually like having it on for the most part. It protects them if there is a complaint filed. The only thing they don't like is that they can get in trouble for cursing. And apparently in some parts of NOLA, if you don't curse you simply can't get your point across.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:19 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The cops I know that wear them are only required to turn them on when they exit their squad car. I imagine it'd be pretty easy to just forget.
My response was to spidermanTUba,PhD's assertion that a cop could just "turn off"his camera whenever he was about to beat the shite out of somebody. Obviously,that wouldn't exactly work to the cops advantage.
At any rate,it would be hard for me to buy the "I forgot to turn my camera on" excuse.
Would they forget to tell dispatch what they're responding to? Forget to turn their lights on? Forget to issue a citation? Nah. They'd just have to get used to doing it like any other part of their job.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:25 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Aside from cost, there would literally be no down side. Although now that I think about it, personal camera equipment seems like a much better investment for police departments than MRAPs, body armor and grenade launchers.
This seems like a reasonable area for the feds to provide grants. Prioritize it so that the areas in most need (high racial strife, low trust in police) get the funds first.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:46 pm to Porkchop Express
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"But Chief, I got some of my jelly donut on the lens. That's why you can't see me doing something unethical..."
Believe me you would want the Chiefs wearing them too. Since Mayors appoint chiefs guess what? Give them cameras too. I would wear the hell out a camera.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:48 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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They actually like having it on for the most part. It protects them if there is a complaint filed. The only thing they don't like is that they can get in trouble for cursing. And apparently in some parts of NOLA, if you don't curse you simply can't get your point across.
truth :bow:
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:50 pm to Five0
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I would wear the hell out a camera.
Would they film cops taking a shite too?
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