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PFF: Saints have NFL’s top offense
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:43 pm
PFF came up with a formula based on the grades of every offensive player to rank all 32 offenses in the NFL. The Saints ended up at #1. You can only see the full rankings if you are an insider on ESPN, but this is the excerpt about the Saints.
If you are an "insider" then the link is HERE
The rest of the top 5, in order, include Denver, Green Bay, Philadelphia, and New England. The Bottom 2 teams are the Jaguars coming in at #32 and the Jets coming in at #31.
The Saints' position ranks are:
QB: 3rd in league.
RBs: 13th in league.
Recievers: 2nd in the league.
OL: 10th in league.
If you are an "insider" then the link is HERE
quote:
1. New Orleans Saints
With our third-ranked quarterback situation, and plenty of talented targets for Drew Brees to throw to, it's easy to see why the Saints are our highest-ranked offense heading into the 2014 season. There's not much Brees struggles with as a passer, and he finished last year with the most touchdown passes (15) and second most yards (1,128) in the league on passes thrown 20 yards or farther downfield.
Of course it helps to have the weapons around him, with Jimmy Graham the standout among the tight ends and receivers. Graham's 2.26 yards per route run average was the most of any tight end with enough qualifying snaps last year, and figures to be just as dangerous in 2014.
The rest of the top 5, in order, include Denver, Green Bay, Philadelphia, and New England. The Bottom 2 teams are the Jaguars coming in at #32 and the Jets coming in at #31.
The Saints' position ranks are:
QB: 3rd in league.
RBs: 13th in league.
Recievers: 2nd in the league.
OL: 10th in league.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 4:05 pm
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:02 pm to Chadzilla
WR: DEN > GB > NO > PHI > NE
TE: NO > NE > DEN > PHI > GB
TE b/w NO and NE are a wash
WR b/w NO and GB are a wash
philly definitely downgraded without Djax
TE: NO > NE > DEN > PHI > GB
TE b/w NO and NE are a wash
WR b/w NO and GB are a wash
philly definitely downgraded without Djax
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:02 pm to Chadzilla
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I found it interesting that they had our reciever situation ranked as #2 in the league. Can't say that I agree.
I like the Saints receivers a lot, but #2 isn't where I'd have them either. Unproven, with potential, but not there yet.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:04 pm to SaintEB
If Cooks turns out as good as we think, then there are 4 legit targets. So I can see justification for the #2 ranking.
Graham, Colston, Stills and Cooks will likely be the best set of targets Brees has ever had.
Graham, Colston, Stills and Cooks will likely be the best set of targets Brees has ever had.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:06 pm to CocoLoco
Yeah I wasn't grouping Graham as a reciever in my head at first but since their is no TE ranking I dont think the ranking is too far off.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:10 pm to Chadzilla
WR should be lower, and RB should be higher.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:17 pm to Patrick O Rly
If we're talking purely WR from everyone (not just the top 5 offenses), I think Chicago is #2 to Denver.
Not sure if anyone has even 3 receivers better than them outside of Denver.
Not sure if anyone has even 3 receivers better than them outside of Denver.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 4:57 pm to Chadzilla
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and he finished last year with the most touchdown passes (15) and second most yards (1,128) in the league on passes thrown 20 yards or farther downfield.
Shell, declining arm strength, blah blah
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:13 pm to SaintEB
quote:
Unproven, with potential, but not there yet.
The only potential starter at WR who is unproven is Cooks. I'd say Stills absolutely proved he can play in this league.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:18 pm to TigerBait1127
...can't throw the deep ball anymore, always behind receivers. 
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:24 pm to Chadzilla
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OL: 10th in league.
I think this will be underrated. Armstead is going to be a dominating force.
This might be the best power running attack the Saints have had.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 5:57 pm to Chadzilla
2nd in WRs? Based on what? Last year our WRs sucked. I think Cook is going to be great and so is Stills but 2nd? Colston declined last year and it showed.
*edit* Oh, they included Graham.
*edit* Oh, they included Graham.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:01 pm to TigerBait1127
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I think this will be underrated. Armstead is going to be a dominating force.
We certainly lucked out there. I'd hate to be here with Brown doing his best matador impression.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:25 pm to deuce985
quote:Colston was injured the first half of the year. He came back on incredibly strong at the end and against Seattle in the playoffs.
Colston declined last year and it showed.
Anyone thinking Colston isn't a legit number one is wrong.
Add in Cooks being fully legit and Stills having another year, that is a GREAT top 3 to have. Then Graham, Watson, and Hill as receiving threats, along with PT. Brees has a lot to work with.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:35 pm to bonethug0108
ya, Colston is not declining rapidly like many suggest...he deals with a lot of injuries cause of his style of play.
...31 is not very old for a non - one dimensional speed WR...hell, Roddy White just got an extension at 33
...31 is not very old for a non - one dimensional speed WR...hell, Roddy White just got an extension at 33
Posted on 8/11/14 at 6:46 pm to drake20
At $6m per too.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:35 am to Chadzilla
They came out with the defense ranks today.
My problem is that basically they just grade what happened last year, and say hey based on last year, here are the current ranks. There is no projection based on improvements: free agents added and draft picks, coaching changes, etc.
My problem is that basically they just grade what happened last year, and say hey based on last year, here are the current ranks. There is no projection based on improvements: free agents added and draft picks, coaching changes, etc.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:36 am to Chadzilla
ESPN is sucking all on that Denver dick. Both offense and defense. You'd swear they didn't get blown out in the Super Bowl last year 
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