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The Return of the Stay-at-home Mother

Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:23 pm


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In 1967 the share of mothers who did not work outside the home stood at 49%; by the turn of the millennium it had dropped to just 23% (see chart 1). Many thought this number would continue to fall as women sought to “have it all”. Instead, the proportion of stay-at-home mothers has been rising steadily for the past 15 years, according to new data crunched by the Pew Research Centre.

Taken as a whole, the group includes mothers at both ends of the social scale (see chart 2). Some are highly educated bankers’ wives who choose not to work because they don’t need the money and would rather spend their time hot-housing their toddlers so that they may one day get into Harvard. Others are poorer but calculate that, after paying for child care, the money they make sweeping floors or serving burgers does not justify the time away from their little ones.

The first group is fairly small. Pew estimates that there are 370,000 highly educated and affluent stay-at-home mothers (defined as married mothers with children under 18 who have at least a master’s degree and family income in excess of $75,000). That is 5% of all stay-at-home mothers with working husbands. One-third of stay-at-home mothers are single or cohabiting, and on average they are poorer than the rest.

The increase in stay-at-home mothering sits oddly with a second big trend affecting women’s lives: their relative success in the labour market. Women now hold half of the jobs in America, up from 32% in 1964. Women lost just one job during the recession for every 2.6 jobs lost by men, according to the Bureau of Labour Statistics (though men have since staged a recovery). At the highly skilled end of the jobs market, women are in a strong position: they earn 57% of all bachelor’s degrees awarded by universities. The same is true in the low-skilled bit. The industries where the government expects the most employment growth between now and 2022, such as health care and hospitality, are mostly dominated by women. Unless men become more like women, the argument goes, changes in the structure of the economy will consign many of them to futures as indolent sperm donors.


TheEconomist assumes this trend is a bad thing (absolutely absurd), and, par for the course, calls for more government and socialism:

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Policies that make it easier for women to stay in work after having children, should they choose to do so, would probably be more constructive. America is unusual in not granting statutory paid maternity (or paternity) leave or providing much affordable child care. Both policies were recommended by a commission headed by Eleanor Roosevelt shortly before “The Feminine Mystique” was published, but have been largely ignored.


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I consider it very good and healthy for a child when a parent stays at home, but in a time when it is difficult to only live on one income, this trend is a bit puzzling.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56379 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:25 pm to
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I consider it very good and healthy for a child when a parent stays at home.



agree
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
a shitty job market probably has something to do with it
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to
My mother stayed at home and raised six of us. Later admitted the experience helped enbolden her to take a job as a mine sweeper after we left the nest.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:32 pm to
My wife stays at home with our kids...she started to argue with me about it but then she saw my hand go up.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14483 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:33 pm to
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a shitty job market probably has something to do with it


Agree. If you can't find a job staying home and raising kids is a good alternative.

As the economy picks up, employment should increase. That will put an upward pressure on wages. That would give more opportunity and incentive to work.

Would also like to see the stats for stay at home dads. I suspect that has been increasing as well.

Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:33 pm to
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TheEconomist assumes this trend is a bad thing (absolutely absurd), and, par for the course, calls for more government and socialism:


I didn't read the article as a left-wing attack piece. They obviously think highly of paid maternity and paternity leave, but they shot down Obama's "77-cent" myth and conceded that some mothers are staying home so they can "hothouse their toddlers... into Harvard," instead of asserting that these women are just somehow oppressed. From a conservative perspective, I've read worse articles.

Part of this trend is the sluggish economy, part of this trend is the influx of Hispanic families and part of this trend is that despite the "Lean In" movement, we've past the peak of feminism and some women are returning to their natural instincts. If anything, I'm more concerned about the fact that you have a lot of men who are dropping out of society altogether and don't want to work.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:34 pm to
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she started to argue with me about it but then she saw my hand go up.
ha ha ha!

Domestic violence is funny.

You should also make jokes about raping your daughter. We will all laugh.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Would also like to see the stats for stay at home dads. I suspect that has been increasing as well.


Only marginally. Among married women, I think the figure is 20-25% (depending on which stats you accept), while the stay-at-home father rate is <1.5%, maybe even <1% (and a lot of that represents disabled fathers who can't work.)
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

but in a time when it is difficult to only live on one income, this trend is a bit puzzling.


All the guys I know whose wives chose to stay home after having a kid are stressed as hell about money.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

a shitty job market probably has something to do with it


This
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:40 pm to
Calm down man
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:41 pm to
The trend started before the 2008 crash
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

ha ha ha!

Domestic violence is funny.

i dont think cwill suggested he did. i think it was "he raised his hand to agree"

Its probably a combo of bad employment opportunities and the high cost of daycare.

I have friends that are paying $1500/month for childcare.

i think having a stay at home parent is a good thing for children.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

high cost of daycare
Let's give all children free gubment daycare, everyone! woohoo!

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Domestic violence is funny.


You obviously didn't get it since you are probably the most humorless downer (with all due respect to constant cough) on this board.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

All the guys I know whose wives chose to stay home after having a kid are stressed as hell about money


I went to work part time once the kids were in school ... much happier than working full time; much happier than working not at all. Around for the kids after school/activities. Here to do things like housework, flower beds, etc (which I don't mind so why pay someone) ... we're not stressed about money. We're not rich but we're conscious of where we spend our money ... we're definitely not "keeping up with the Joneses" people.

The kids were being ridiculous one day and I mentioned getting a full time job ... they freaked out with "who's gonna bring us ..", "who's gonna get us ... ", "who's going to visit with us ...". They chilled out.

It works for us. And dinner is almost always cooked!
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

but in a time when it is difficult to only live on one income, this trend is a bit puzzling.


Here are two examples of stay at home moms:

I don't have my masters. It do have 2 industry specific certifications that required 2 years of group study and pass/fail comprehensive test at the end of each year for cert. I was accomplished in my career and made low 6 figures. My husband made/makes more. We are very comfortable financially and didn't need my income. It was very difficult to give up my career as I had worked very hard to get where I was and I genuinely enjoyed what I did. I am also a very goal-oriented person so working gave me a sense of accomplishment and success. I decided to stay at home to rIse our child bc I was the 80s latch key kid. I didn't want to miss what my mother did and wanted my son to have the support I missed as a child. That was more important to me than my career or extra income that wasn't needed.

My brother makes a decent living but isn't making 6 figures - or even close. He married at 21 and has 4 kids now at 28. My sister in law had no education past high school and no career ambition. Early on, they really couldn't afford for her to not work but she insisted that she didn't want to put their first child in day care. To her, it was better to struggle financially and give up all extras to be at home with their kids. She is still at home and are doing fin financially but are still unable to afford many things people take for granted like vacations.

We both know people who work bc they can't pay bills without it. They had no choice and are just doing what they have to. We also know people who are very financially secure without the mother's income but the mother works because that is important to her.

Having the option of staying home is a blessing that I never take for granted. However, the choice to stay home isn't always easy regardless of finances and comes with frequent judgement from working parents.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12008 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:35 pm to
Much similarity here! Gave up a high 5-figure salary (a decade ago) to stay home with child, after my 'family-friendly' employer (higher ed. institution) declined to allow me to work from home part of the time (even though job was 90% done online). Putting a baby in daycare was not an option for us. Have master's degree, my salary was great but not absolutely necessary for our livelihood. We live and spend carefully and wisely, are saving for college and retirement, and do some travel. Being able to be home, raise and home educate our child, priceless!
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:38 pm to
I like these real stories, thanks for sharing.

In my friend group, almost all liberal, its probably 30% SAHP (some dads!), but I bet it would be 60% SAHP if they could afford it.
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