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Just got my new SSD, about to install Windows; some help?

Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:21 pm
Ok, just got my Samsung in and have a couple questions:

I have my W7 Reinstallation DVD and I also have a Drivers and Utilities DVD. Do I need to install any drivers or will a fresh W7 install take care of everything I need?

Once I install W7, should I create a System Restore image right then or should I put my programs, etc on first?

Any last second advice? Yes, I backed up everything to my external. I also backed up my bookmarks.

TIA


ETA: Figured what the software DVD was for, migrating my current HD over. Don't need since I have an external with everything on it.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:50 pm to
Are you just upgrading or do you have issues with your hdd?

If simply upgrading to an ssd you can clone your drive, as well as exclude folders you don't want copied, and swap the drives out. However, this will require an available sata port on your motherboard and one of the programs (they usually have a free trial).
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:53 pm to
Yeah, having issues with current HD. Will use my external to bring everything over to new SSD.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 6:59 pm to
You'll likely need to install drivers for a few things, but many of the basics are generally recognized by Windows 7 (wifi adapter and sound), but sometimes they aren't. Be prepared to reinstall any drivers as necessary, which means you will want to ensure you have the wifi adapter driver on hand or accessible before you reinstall, just in case.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:01 pm to
Gotcha.

You will need to reinstall drivers and I think you are given the option to create a restore point at the end of the setup and it shouldn't take long with a fresh install.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:03 pm to
If you do a fresh install, Windows 7 will see some drivers and not others. You will have to update Windows through Windows Update and install all of your programs. A fresh install is usually a good thing, but will take some time.

If you are just swapping your HD for a new one, then I would download Macrium Reflect Free. Create an image of your current HD (it runs in Windows) to an external USB drive and create a boot CD/USB stick in Macrium. Once both are done, just image the old HD onto the new HD and everything is just like it was before.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:05 pm to
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but will take some time.



On the plus side, re-installing the OS, drivers, and all those programs will give him a sampling of why SSDs are the tits.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:08 pm to
By having the Driver DVD, that would be what you mean as far as "on hand or accessible", correct?

Outside of the wifi adapter, which I'm guessing if I need to install driver, I will know because I won't be able to connect to the internet, how will I know which Drivers I need?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Gotcha. You will need to reinstall drivers and I think you are given the option to create a restore point at the end of the setup and it shouldn't take long with a fresh install.


Do I want to create that restore point right after getting drivers and everything set up, or just immediately after installing W7? In other words, do I get all my normal programs I use on first?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Once both are done, just image the old HD onto the new HD and everything is just like it was before

Pulling out the HD now, so too late for that

But I do want a fresh start as well. The current HD is corrupted, so I figured best to reinstall fresh?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Pulling out the HD now, so too late for that

But I do want a fresh start as well. The current HD is corrupted, so I figured best to reinstall fresh?
That's cool, but you will have to reinstall basically everything.

And as a sidenote, Restore points are garbage IMO. I turn off system restore.
Posted by ADLSUNSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:20 pm to
Use the samsung disk to turn on trim support.

Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

On the plus side, re-installing the OS, drivers, and all those programs will give him a sampling of why SSDs are the tits.
Yes, but what difference does it make?

If his current HD can manage a backup through Macrium and image that over to the SSD, he'll get the same performance and not have to worry about hours of Windows Updates, etc.

Trust me, I like fresh installs when needed. But unless he has lots of bloatware, etc, I would just image the thing and be done in an hour.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

And as a sidenote, Restore points are garbage IMO. I turn off system restore.



+1. System imaging and ordinary file-based backups are the way to go.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

By having the Driver DVD, that would be what you mean as far as "on hand or accessible", correct?



Yeah

quote:

Outside of the wifi adapter, which I'm guessing if I need to install driver, I will know because I won't be able to connect to the internet, how will I know which Drivers I need?


Not sure how they'll be labeled on the CD, but in general the essential drivers would be chipset, any USB 3.0 host controllers (if you have USB 3.0), Wifi, sound, ethernet, GPU (if dedicated). Some of the others might include webcam, trackpad driver/utility, card reader, and other random utilities you may not necessarily want/need.

What exact model is this? I can look up what's available and see what's just bloatware.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Use the samsung disk to turn on trim support.

Can you tell me what that is and can I do it after I install W7?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Trust me, I like fresh installs when needed. But unless he has lots of bloatware, etc, I would just image the thing and be done in an hour.


Of course, in normal circumstances where you're just upgrading/changing storage. You may not have been part of his other thread back when he was looking for solutions to his HDD issues. His hard disk was throwing SMART warnings and freezing up, so couple that with 2 years of HDD clutter, and you're just imaging/cloning potential issues.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

What exact model is this? I can look up what's available and see what's just bloatware.

L502X - it's the XPS 15 and I would love to have no bloat ware.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11906 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

His hard disk was throwing SMART warnings and freezing up, so couple that with 2 years of HDD clutter, and you're just imaging/cloning potential issues.

Exactly

But thanks drizz, I appreciate saving time as well.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Can you tell me what that is and can I do it after I install W7?



Ignore that. The samsung software is handy for some performance operations and features like secure erase, but it is not necessary for TRIM support (an essential operation that helps preserve the life of SSDs) in Windows 7. Windows 7 natively supports TRIM.

You can install the software later if you want. Makes some of the basic OS tweaks people do for SSDs a little easier. But don't worry about that until literally everything else is done.
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