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re: Just got my new SSD, about to install Windows; some help?

Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:36 pm to
Ok thanks.

Couple questions: I asked about the system image a couple times and maybe confused that with system restore. But same question, do I create it immediately after installing W7 or after I get my computer to where I want it?

Also, this thing came with a good NVIDIA graphics card and has 3D and all that jazz. Will that be on the Drivers DVD? Although, I don't play games on here.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 7:38 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Of course, in normal circumstances where you're just upgrading/changing storage. You may not have been part of his other thread back when he was looking for solutions to his HDD issues. His hard disk was throwing SMART warnings and freezing up, so couple that with 2 years of HDD clutter, and you're just imaging/cloning potential issues.
Don't think I remember the thread.

Fresh install it is.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:45 pm to
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Couple questions: I asked about the system image a couple times and maybe confused that with system restore. But same question, do I create it immediately after installing W7 or after I get my computer to where I want it?
Don't even worry about system restore, at least right now.

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Also, this thing came with a good NVIDIA graphics card and has 3D and all that jazz. Will that be on the Drivers DVD? Although, I don't play games on here.
Again, no need right now. You'd be installing a driver thats 2 years old.

Make sure #1 you have your wireless driver on a usb stick. Install Windows 7, install your wireless driver, check your manufacture site for drivers using IE (or downloading FF/Chrome/etc beforehand). You may be running in 800x600 for a little bit, but no worries there.

Windows Update will take care of a lot of the drivers you're missing and use Dell for the rest. You will have lots of installing going forward though, all updates, drivers, programs.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:45 pm to
Ok, SSD installed into the old HD little bracket and screwed back into place on my computer. Just popped the keyboard back on. By the way, what a pain in the arse that was getting it off in the first place

I have the W7 disk in the optical drive and ready to go. I haven't plugged computer back in yet. Anything I need to do other than boot from DVD?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:46 pm to
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L502X


The basic ones:
Intel HM67 Chipset Driver
Renesas USB3.0 Host Controller Driver
Intel Management Engine Interface Driver
Jmicron JMB389 Card Reader Driver
Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030/Advanced-N 6230 Driver
Realtek ALC665 Audio Driver
Realtek RTL8111E Gigabit Ethernet Controller Driver
Quanta H.264 Integrate Webcam Driver
Dell Touchpad Driver

As for GPU, I'm seeing drivers for a low-end nVidia GPU, as well as Intel HD graphics drivers. If you know whether your PC is configured with a dedicated nVidia GPU, you'll need that driver too.

There are some utilities there that you may or may not care about (touchpad/keyboard utilities, diagnostics, and random programs), modem drivers, monitor drivers, etc. But if you don't miss them, you probably don't need them.

Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:48 pm to
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I have the W7 disk in the optical drive and ready to go. I haven't plugged computer back in yet. Anything I need to do other than boot from DVD?
Make sure you have your wireless driver.

Other than that, I say go for it. It's going to take 30-90 minutes for Windows to install most likely.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:49 pm to
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Don't even worry about system restore, at least right now.

system image
I won't worry about it for now then since, like you say, I have a bunch of updates and drivers to install. BUT , after I do all of that, should I create a image then or get even my programs on there (office, photoshop, etc) and then create an image?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:51 pm to
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I won't worry about it for now then since, like you say, I have a bunch of updates and drivers to install. BUT , after I do all of that, should I create a image then or get even my programs on there (office, photoshop, etc) and then create an image?
Get everything up to date, install Macrium Reflect Free (or your choice of imaging software). Once you have the machine working 100%, everything all golden, make a backup image.

Also, I usually partition my HDs. So for 256GB main drive, I would partition 80-100GB for Windows and the rest for Data.
This post was edited on 8/2/14 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:53 pm to
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As for GPU, I'm seeing drivers for a low-end nVidia GPU, as well as Intel HD graphics drivers. If you know whether your PC is configured with a dedicated nVidia GPU, you'll need that driver too.

IIRC, it was more in line with HD graphics, it wasn't on the low end. I had upgraded the video card, and don't play games!
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There are some utilities there that you may or may not care about (touchpad/keyboard utilities, diagnostics, and random programs), modem drivers, monitor drivers, etc. But if you don't miss them, you probably don't need them.

I'm sure I'll sound dumb, but without those utilities will the touchpad/keyboard, etc work properly? What is different without having them?
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:54 pm to
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drizztiger


2 pages for the answer
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:54 pm to
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Again, no need right now. You'd be installed a driver thats 2 years old.


One thing to be careful about with mobile GPU drivers. Looks like the drivers pertain to either a GT 525M or 540M, two very old, low-end GPUs. Sometimes, not always, mobile GPU drivers are vendor-specific, coded to the vbios, and only the vendor's drivers, as old as they may be, will work properly.

In some cases, like with my ASUS ROG laptop, a new vbios solved the issue, but such a vbios is not always easy to find (in this case, it was user-modified bios for the 5870M released on a forum).
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:00 pm to
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without those utilities will the touchpad/keyboard, etc work properly? What is different without having them?


Both will work without them. The touchpad driver (which was on my list of mostly essential drivers) is meant for additional touch features (two-finger scroll, zoom, etc.). Looks like the keyboard utilities are related to the Dell KM713 wireless keyboard, so probably irrelevant.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11917 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:01 pm to
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Also, I usually partition my HDs. So for 256GB main drive, I would partition 80-100GB for Windows and the rest for Data.

It is loading files right now. Will it ask me about partitioning during setup? I have a 250gb SSD drive. How much does W7 have to have and is it better for me to do the partition?

I want as much as I can for my data of course.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:08 pm to
Ok, here's where I am
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:11 pm to
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It is loading files right now. Will it ask me about partitioning during setup? I have a 250gb SSD drive. How much does W7 have to have and is it better for me to do the partition?

I want as much as I can for my data of course
ILikeLSUToo answer this.

It's been a few months since I installed Win 7. I think you need to pick Custom option when you get to that screen. Windows itself is going to create a small partition you're not going to touch. Then you can let Windows know where to install. It really depends on your laptop specs for how much to give Windows. How much RAM do you have? If you use Hibernate on your laptop, that's going to equal your RAM on the HD. Pagefile.sys will also take up GB. I turn off hibernate on my laptops, but if you use it, you have to account for it.

As a standard I use 80-100 GB for main partition.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Here you go...
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:13 pm to
You can partition it after the install. But FYI, the only reason you'd need to do this is if you want to cut down on the imaging time (i.e., just imaging your OS/programs and not your regular data files). There is no performance benefit to doing this on an SSD like there is on an HDD.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:15 pm to
Ok, sweet, no partition then!
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:17 pm to
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You can partition it after the install.
He will need tools to do this although it's easy.

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But FYI, the only reason you'd need to do this is if you want to cut down on the imaging time (i.e., just imaging your OS/programs and not your regular data files). There is no performance benefit to doing this on an SSD like there is on an HDD.
The reason is to separate OS from Data when possible not performance.
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