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Best place to buy a home PC?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:48 am
I'm looking for a new PC for home use. Just need the tower, have a decent monitor already. Don't need anything for gaming or business (have a laptop for work). I've been advised to get a tower with Windows 7 instead of the crappy 8. I'd like at least an i3 processer and 1TB of storage. I'm looking to spend as little as possible since it's just for home use.
So what website has the best prices? Newegg? Any manufacturers to avoid? Thanks in advance.
So what website has the best prices? Newegg? Any manufacturers to avoid? Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:51 am to bhtigerfan
newegg
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newegg
i'd go mini itx if i were you if you dont want a graphics card (in which i highly recommend a even a low cost graphics card) and i think you might be able to fit a small card in a mini itx
make sure to get a SSD for software install 256Gb minimum boots and runs many times faster and regular HD for documents
newegg
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newegg
i'd go mini itx if i were you if you dont want a graphics card (in which i highly recommend a even a low cost graphics card) and i think you might be able to fit a small card in a mini itx
make sure to get a SSD for software install 256Gb minimum boots and runs many times faster and regular HD for documents
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:53 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
I'd like at least an i3 processer at least
Why do you want an i3? What will you be doing? I ask because the Pentium G 3258 is a fantastic processor at the price and much cheaper than an i3 with likely no gain in function. And with the $50-70 in savings, you can invest in something like the Kingston 128gb SSd, which will dramatically increase your performance as opposed to the i3 with a 1tb non-SSd.
And if you have the old tower and list its specs/model no, it's usually really easy with just a couple of screws to buy a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM and drop it into the old case to have a whole new computer. All the parts snap right into place. You can even keep your old hard drive as extra storage.
ETA: but search Amazon, Newegg and Tigerdirect. Find a model you want; then search that model on the other two sites. No one site is always the cheapest. Between those 3, you should be bottom dollar more often than not.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 8:54 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:53 am to bhtigerfan
Buy parts and build it yourself.
Nothing wrong with win8 btw, it's actually better "under the hood" than win7 but the interface takes getting used to.
Nothing wrong with win8 btw, it's actually better "under the hood" than win7 but the interface takes getting used to.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:57 am to foshizzle
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the interface takes getting used to.
Windows key + F and type what you're looking for. Learn that, and you now know where almost everything is.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:01 am to Hopeful Doc
quote:What does that do? Every time I've used Win8 I just started typing at the start screen to search.
Windows key + F and type what you're looking for.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:32 am to bhtigerfan
Don't get hung up on the processor model. Instead compare Passmark scores to get a better idea of the processing power. For the usage you describe look for something with a Passmark score of at least 2000-3000.
LINK
Don't limit yourself to Newegg. I've found bargains at some of the unlikeliest places including Office Depot. Get on the e-mail list for Newegg and Tiger Direct and don't be in a hurry. A couple of things you ought to be looking for are a 7200 rpm disk drive and at least two USB 3.0 ports. If you're connecting to the internet with wi-fi, get a decent N900 router and a matching N900 adapter for the PC; the built-in cards that come with the PC are all crap. The SSD is nice but you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with the higher rpm drive.
You should expect to pay no more than $400, less if you opt for refurbished.
LINK
Don't limit yourself to Newegg. I've found bargains at some of the unlikeliest places including Office Depot. Get on the e-mail list for Newegg and Tiger Direct and don't be in a hurry. A couple of things you ought to be looking for are a 7200 rpm disk drive and at least two USB 3.0 ports. If you're connecting to the internet with wi-fi, get a decent N900 router and a matching N900 adapter for the PC; the built-in cards that come with the PC are all crap. The SSD is nice but you'll get a lot more bang for your buck with the higher rpm drive.
You should expect to pay no more than $400, less if you opt for refurbished.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:54 am to bhtigerfan
quote:
I've been advised to get a tower with Windows 7 instead of the crappy 8.
You've been advised wrong.
quote:
Newegg
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:32 am to bhtigerfan
Just got my Newegg daily e-mail and found this. It pretty much has all of the features you need and it's on sale for $449 with free shipping. Use promo code EMCPCHH237.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:13 am to Layabout
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Instead compare Passmark scores
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:27 am to Layabout
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Layabout
Why not just suggest hooking up 110 to a turd? It would summarize all that.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:52 am to foshizzle
quote:
Buy parts and build it yourself.
Nothing wrong with win8 btw, it's actually better "under the hood" than win7 but the interface takes getting used to.
Yep. I built my first desktop PC 10 years ago, and I've never bought another desktop. Building is the way to go.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:52 am to boXerrumble
I wouldn't even know where to begin on building a PC.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:55 am to SabiDojo
Case
Motherboard
cpu
memory
hard drive
Done.
EDIT: Also need a disk drive to install windows I guess.
Motherboard
cpu
memory
hard drive
Done.
EDIT: Also need a disk drive to install windows I guess.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:08 pm to boXerrumble
How much are we talking?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:16 pm to boXerrumble
quote:
Yep. I built my first desktop PC 10 years ago, and I've never bought another desktop. Building is the way to go.
Pretty much this, parents have a built machine from 2010, but it still works amazing. The people who did are very reputable in my area, so that helps as well.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:11 pm to SpartyGator
Thanks for all the replies guys. The computer I currently have is a 9 year old Dell with Windows XP, so besides it being slow as shite, they're not updating it anymore and my hard drive being full. Like another said, I wouldn't know where to begin to build one. I'm nowhere nearly as knowledgeable as you guys.
So is the Dell that someone suggested not a good deal?
So is the Dell that someone suggested not a good deal?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:36 pm to bhtigerfan
You're in BR?
Here's what I'd do for a basic home PC, FWIW: LINK
- As hopeful doc said, the G3258 is one of the better value lower-end CPUs in terms of raw computing performance. The integrated GPU will be fine for everything but gaming.
- Went with a mATX form factor because there's no reason to put this in an ATX mid-tower. Going with Mini-ITX would cost more for an acceptable case, motherboard, and cooling arrangement. Without knowing your budget, I can't really determine the appropriate form factor/cost balance.
- Chose that Zalman low profile cooler because even if you never do anything super-CPU-intensive, the stock coolers can be loud and inefficient. This is a cheap cooler that will be a big improvement over the stock HSF and can carry over to any CPU upgrade you make in the future.
- 8GB of RAM kind of stands out in this build, and it may be overkill depending on your usage. If you're like me and keep your PC on most of the time and a lot of programs running (couple dozen browser tabs, maybe a word document or two that you're working on sporadically, videos, etc. etc.), it will be a night and day difference between 4GB and 8GB. I generally come close to 50% memory usage at all times (and 60-70% once I fire up a game), and I have 16GB. If you're not a multi-tab browser/multi-programs/leave-it-all-open-because-I'm-not-done ADD type of person like I am, going down to 4GB would shave $30 from the price.
- Went with the SSD for obvious reasons. It will be absolutely the most noticeable performance enhancement in day-to-day use. I can give you a long technical explanation why if you want to know.
- Also added a 1TB drive for storage. No need to choose one or the other in a desktop build. That's really stupid.
- Power supply is overkill for this build, but the amperage headroom will actually allow the PC to run at peak energy efficiency when it's under the highest of loads. It's also a cut above any power supply you'd get in a prebuilt, and it's fairly cheap. And modular.
If you order the parts, I will build for free. Otherwise, another option is picking any cheap off-the-shelf desktop and installing an SSD, or just pick a random desktop and don't worry about the SSD (it will be slow). There's not a whole lot of difference in vanilla off-the-shelf solutions at similar price points when it comes to basic home PCs.
Here's what I'd do for a basic home PC, FWIW: LINK
- As hopeful doc said, the G3258 is one of the better value lower-end CPUs in terms of raw computing performance. The integrated GPU will be fine for everything but gaming.
- Went with a mATX form factor because there's no reason to put this in an ATX mid-tower. Going with Mini-ITX would cost more for an acceptable case, motherboard, and cooling arrangement. Without knowing your budget, I can't really determine the appropriate form factor/cost balance.
- Chose that Zalman low profile cooler because even if you never do anything super-CPU-intensive, the stock coolers can be loud and inefficient. This is a cheap cooler that will be a big improvement over the stock HSF and can carry over to any CPU upgrade you make in the future.
- 8GB of RAM kind of stands out in this build, and it may be overkill depending on your usage. If you're like me and keep your PC on most of the time and a lot of programs running (couple dozen browser tabs, maybe a word document or two that you're working on sporadically, videos, etc. etc.), it will be a night and day difference between 4GB and 8GB. I generally come close to 50% memory usage at all times (and 60-70% once I fire up a game), and I have 16GB. If you're not a multi-tab browser/multi-programs/leave-it-all-open-because-I'm-not-done ADD type of person like I am, going down to 4GB would shave $30 from the price.
- Went with the SSD for obvious reasons. It will be absolutely the most noticeable performance enhancement in day-to-day use. I can give you a long technical explanation why if you want to know.
- Also added a 1TB drive for storage. No need to choose one or the other in a desktop build. That's really stupid.
- Power supply is overkill for this build, but the amperage headroom will actually allow the PC to run at peak energy efficiency when it's under the highest of loads. It's also a cut above any power supply you'd get in a prebuilt, and it's fairly cheap. And modular.
If you order the parts, I will build for free. Otherwise, another option is picking any cheap off-the-shelf desktop and installing an SSD, or just pick a random desktop and don't worry about the SSD (it will be slow). There's not a whole lot of difference in vanilla off-the-shelf solutions at similar price points when it comes to basic home PCs.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:52 pm to bluebarracuda
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bluebarracuda
While most of his post is laughable, Passmark is not a terrible resource for general performance, basically for everything except gaming. Yeah, synthetic benchmarks are evil because they are a poor representation of the realities of hardware optimization in most programs, but we can assume in this situation that single thread performance will be key, and Passmark is pretty decent for that.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:20 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
How much are we talking?
These days? I'd say anywhere between 300-500 dollars if you know where to buy from.
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