- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
3 Point Rule
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:53 pm
I live in Arkansas but I go back to hunt in Louisiana a good bit because that is where our family lease is. I know there are exceptions to the rule but it seems like the hunting is a lot better here in Arkansas and the folks I talk to credit the 3 point rule. Has Louisiana ever considered this? My uncles and others on our lease drive me nuts because they will drop a spike before they will shoot a doe. Terrible management.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:54 pm to arktiger28
I wish Louisiana would go to Mississippi rules.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:05 pm to Dylan
I like mississippi's rules and we take it even further, 8pt or better and bucks must weigh at least 160. You can shoot a six or seven point but it has to weigh 180. My dad's lease in la uses the three point rule but they don't use a spread rule and every basket rack 5 and 6 point that steps out gets blasted. I keep telling him they will never kill nice deer with those rules.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:07 pm to arktiger28
I hunt a piney section of southeast AR and there are way more deer there than in the piney woods of southeast MS. If our club could teach me and a couple others to tell the difference between a button and a doe (as well as count to three a little better); we could really have a great herd.
The three point rule is better than no rule at all, but minimum spread rule (like MS has) may work better to keep young bucks alive another year.
The three point rule is better than no rule at all, but minimum spread rule (like MS has) may work better to keep young bucks alive another year.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:08 pm to jmh5724
Weight is a stupid thing to consider
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:12 pm to arktiger28
I'd like to get a group of like-minded folks together and use a common sense rule. Don't shoot young bucks.
Or, you get one buck per year. After that, everyone you kill better be mounted.
Or, you get one buck per year. After that, everyone you kill better be mounted.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:13 pm to KingRanch
I think the weight rule is just to stay in back of people's minds to shoot older deer. I guess it's easier to guess a weight than an age for most people.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:20 pm to Slickback
quote:
Don't shoot young bucks....one buck per year. After that, everyone you kill better be mounted.
That makes a lot of sense.
I think most antler regs are trying to get hunters to pass on young bucks; but they have different definitions of young.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:31 pm to KingRanch
I agree the weight rule is dumb. Go read up on the 150" 145 or 150 pound deer killed off the big black a couple years ago. I've seen plenty 5 year old bucks that only weigh 160 pounds and plenty 3.5 year old deer over 200. The genetics and nutrition play a huge role. I think the 3 point rule is better then no rule, but minimum spread or main beam length is best.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:32 pm to dat yat
I've definitely blasted a button buck or two before. No way to tell past 75 yards
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:38 pm to Hammertime
quote:
I've definitely blasted a button buck or two before. No way to tell past 75 yards
We wait to shoot a lot of our does until the end of the season for this reason. If you have good enough binocs at the end of January, you can tell.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:42 pm to arktiger28
I've seen all types of different management practices and discovered one thing. If you have to force management it won't work.
You have to have people that want mature bucks to get big bucks. Not the guys that watch the outdoor channel and talk a big game.
You have to have people that want mature bucks to get big bucks. Not the guys that watch the outdoor channel and talk a big game.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:45 pm to Dylan
The weight rule was the first I ever heard of when I joined but it seems to work. Rarely does anyone kill a questionable buck. If someone kills a 150" buck and it didn't make the weight I'm sure an exception would be made.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:09 pm to Hammertime
quote:
I've definitely blasted a button buck or two before. No way to tell past 75 yards
Good point. If I'm having trouble judging size, I'll wait till another deer steps out to see if one is bigger than the other.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:24 pm to REB BEER
quote:
Good point. If I'm having trouble judging size, I'll wait till another deer steps out to see if one is bigger than the other.
Buttons always walk out first baw....BOOM BOOM
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:35 pm to Buttoncollector
A few years back I rolled a doe and a button buck within 2 minutes of each other. All I could say when I got back to the camp was "Oops, my bad"
Longest shots I have ever taken with my 30/30, and they were around 125 yards
Longest shots I have ever taken with my 30/30, and they were around 125 yards
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:38 pm to Hammertime
quote:
I've definitely blasted a button buck or two before. No way to tell past 75 yards
Don't shoot an antlerless deer that's by itself. More often than not it's going to be a button buck.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:59 pm to dat yat
min spread rule is a bitch.
I have 5.5 year old buck here that clearly is mature. he may go 13" inside spread. His rack is tall and narrow and he is only passing on those tall and narrow genes with each year we avoid shooting due to the law.
On the other hand we had a really nice buck last year that was 2.5 by camera footage over the past two years. He was a symmetrical 10 with big brows and was at least 18" wide. He was clearly young and lean but you guessed it, a neighbor shot his arse and posted pics of his proud trophy. Legal yes. Good management no.
So min spread restrictions in my mind only kill off the desirable wide bucks and leave behind the narrow less desirable bucks to reproduce. If you want to enforce any law it should be a if/then law.
min inside spread of x
if you kill a buck less than x then it must be x years old by dental aging
if it does not meet that age then you must be able to prove an ailment that permitted taking him out of the herd for management reasons.
I have 5.5 year old buck here that clearly is mature. he may go 13" inside spread. His rack is tall and narrow and he is only passing on those tall and narrow genes with each year we avoid shooting due to the law.
On the other hand we had a really nice buck last year that was 2.5 by camera footage over the past two years. He was a symmetrical 10 with big brows and was at least 18" wide. He was clearly young and lean but you guessed it, a neighbor shot his arse and posted pics of his proud trophy. Legal yes. Good management no.
So min spread restrictions in my mind only kill off the desirable wide bucks and leave behind the narrow less desirable bucks to reproduce. If you want to enforce any law it should be a if/then law.
min inside spread of x
if you kill a buck less than x then it must be x years old by dental aging
if it does not meet that age then you must be able to prove an ailment that permitted taking him out of the herd for management reasons.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:13 pm to Bleeding purple
quote:
min spread rule is a bitch.
A lot of the WMAs in Arkansas have gone to an either/or rule for spread/beam length. In the more fertile regions it's 15" spread OR 18" beam length. In the piney woods it's 12" spread OR 15" beam. So far it seems to be working well.
Any antler restrictions are going to allow for people to kill the superior bucks of a fawn crop before they are mature, but I guess it's better than nothing
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:28 am to Raz4back
When I lived in Arkansas I hunted in S.E. Arkansas in Wilmar. I dropped what I thought was a doe about 75 yards next to a feeder. I walked up and looked and ill be damned if it didn't have spikes right at an inch. Scared me for a minute.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News