Social "Conservatives" = Economic Socialists

Truth.



ETA: Rick Santorum is a good example of this btw.

False- How people want to organize themselves economically through both liberty and order is a reflection as much of culture then on some sort of materialistic rationalism.

Sigh

Tell me what your reading level is and maybe I can make it more clear.

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Ron Paul would have made a great President.

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It'll take another decade or so, but history will look back very kindly on him. One of the few who could pierce the bullshite.

That is as accurate as a statement can be.

Social conservatives do not desire less government, they merely desire the government to enforce the values and behaviors which they deem acceptable. In practice, though not in principle, they are no different from what they accuse social/economic liberals of beings.

I like alot of what I have heard from Ron Paul, however I don't think he presented well on a stage to be honest. His manner of speaking, facial expressions, etc. are hard to overcome for the non-believer.

This is true too often.

I'm very socially conservative in my beliefs. But I don't want the government to reinforce my beliefs. Nor do I need them to do so. Freedom is the answer. Freedom for me to raise my kids how I see fit and freedom to engage in the activities I see most beneficial to me and mine.

That remains true for economic and social activity. Social conservatives need to see the way forward is based on freedom and not coercion.

On social conservatism, he's half-wrong and half-right.

Half-right because in a republic, states should have the rights to make decisions on social issues, although you normally have a judicial system which forces states to take stances they don't want to take, usually in the liberal direction.

However, half-wrong because in order to produce people who can function in a limited government environment, you need strong families. Productive citizens don't rise out of a vacuum. We know that intact, two-parent families do a far better job of producing these children than other families. So if you have too much tolerance of different lifestyles, you're going to produce worse adults.

We have produced a generation filled with feckless young men, which has helped produce single mothers needing the government to help care for their children. If you need more government to help single-parent families, than you can't have economic conservatism.

So while you don't necessarily want a strong federal government picking sides on particular social issues like gay marriage, you do need a socially conservative tone in the culture that minimizes the need for economic interventionism.

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Social conservatives do not desire less government, they merely desire the government to enforce the values and behaviors which they deem acceptable. In practice, though not in principle, they are no different from what they accuse social/economic liberals of beings.

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Absolutely. It's amazing the lengths the media went to - including Fox - to keep him from winning the GOP.

This is a classic: LINK
Also, for meatier substance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ronpaulcensored