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Why is freon expensive as hell now?

Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:19 am
I assume I can blame treehuggers and the EPA?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14887 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:20 am to
gubment

cost me almost $500 to get one of my units that was leaking freon filled last summer. that unit got replaced last week
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by LessofLes
Member since Sep 2010
1685 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:20 am to
Da gov ment.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:20 am to
Supply and demand
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to

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Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
yes and yes...also a/c is awesome
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72024 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
Didn't they ban making it?
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
time to drop the habit man
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120172 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
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Supply and demand


Yeah but supply is low for a reason. I assume that reason is big brother.
Posted by FAF
NOLA
Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:21 am to
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I assume I can blame treehuggers and the EPA?


Yep.

R-22 kills the environment (or so they say) so they forced a changed to 410, even though they have come out with a harmless R-22 replacement.

Posted by MamouTiger65
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Oct 2007
794 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:24 am to
I think newer systems have switched to a new formula of Freon. The old formula is being phased out and they won't be making more of it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:24 am to
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I assume I can blame treehuggers and the EPA?


Absolutely - people that have been wrong for decades.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:34 am to
They haven't made it since 1995.

I have 10 pounds of it though I haven't used in years.
How much do you need?

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:35 am to
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Absolutely - people that have been wrong for decades.


CFCs are pretty fricked up and not needed when 134a, 410 and others are just as goof.
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5026 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:36 am to
how much was it, i'm bout to take mine in
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:48 am to
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how much was it, i'm bout to take mine in


I don't pay for it.
A side business of appliance repair, is appliance recovery.

When I get a post 1995 fridge I just cut the compressor out. The 3.4 ounces of 134a aren't worth it to me and are under the amount noted as a "discharge" so no harm in leaking that little. (16 ounces of 134a is like $12)
But when I have to cut the compressor out of a pre-1995 fridge I get 3-5 ounces of Freon (r12) that is worth $50-75 an ounce.

But the ONLY time I ever get to sell r12 is when a customer in an area untouched by Katrina has a subzero or something that needs charging.

Most sealed r12 fridges never leak and never need service. Many think they were/are superior o the Tetrafluoroethane we use now.

I turn in my full recovery tank and get a full fill tank of R12.

I never had to buy it, but I have a supplier.
Most of it comes from Florida.
Those bastards sweeps in and took all the freon from the fridges damaged in Katrina.

It's why it is more expensive in NOLA than almost anywhere else (besides green cities) because 95% of all metro area fridges were replaced in 2005/2006.

Posted by tokenasian37
Member since Aug 2007
942 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:58 am to
Freon is expensive because they haven't made it in years. The supply for freon is coming from a limited stockpile. However, refrigerant on the other hand, I don't know...
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