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Democrats unveil legislation forcing the FCC to ban Internet "fast" lanes

Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Cs
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:14 pm
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Democratic lawmakers will unveil a piece of bicameral legislation Tuesday that would force the Federal Communications Commission to ban fast lanes on the Internet.

The proposal, put forward by Senate Judiciary Committee chair Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Rep. Doris Matsui (D-Calif.), requires the FCC to use whatever authority it sees fit to make sure that Internet providers don't speed up certain types of content (like Netflix videos) at the expense of others (like e-mail). It wouldn't give the commission new powers, but the bill — known as the Online Competition and Consumer Choice Act — would give the FCC crucial political cover to prohibit what consumer advocates say would harm startup companies and Internet services by requiring them to pay extra fees to ISPs.


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Leahy and Matsui's proposed ban on fast lanes would apply only to the connections between consumers and their ISPs — the part of the Internet governed by the FCC's proposed net neutrality rules. The FCC's current proposal tacitly allows for the creation of a tiered Internet for content companies, though the commission has asked the public whether it should ban the practice as "commercially unreasonable."


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Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:16 pm to
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requires the FCC to use whatever authority it sees fit to make sure that Internet providers don't speed up certain types of content (like Netflix videos) at the expense of others (like e-mail).




Why does this sound like it's still okay to have "slow" lanes?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:28 pm to
The belief among the IT industry is that what would happen is the ISP's would just slow everyone down except for these "premium" sites. Thus they wouldn't be "fast lanes" so much as they would be "what used to be normal for everyone".

The other big worry about Net Neutrality is that it removes what is an inherently level playing field for smaller businesses by, in essence, penalizing them for not paying for priority access.
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:28 pm to
Holy shite, I think I actually support the Dems on something.


Elizabeth, Elizabeth, I'm coming to see 'ya. Elizabeth, this is the big one!!!
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:38 pm to
The funniest thing was the Comcast guy saying they were NOT creating a fast lane. That everyone would be on the fast lane all the time, then there was this other kind of hyper speed lane
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:45 pm to
not sure where i fall on this topic
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 4:50 pm to
Sorry, but I am always extremely skeptical of all legislation presented by either side. I'm sure there are plenty of loopholes in this bill (that has probably been drafted by some industry lobbyist) as well as multiple unintended consequences.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:01 pm to
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Leahy and Matsui's proposed ban on fast lanes would apply only to the connections between consumers and their ISPs


This is actually where the tiered services should be, between consumers and their ISP. If consumers need a fast lane they should be able to pay for it, if they don't they should be able to buy a slower lane. What is bad about what's going on is the hidden double dipping the ISPs want to do with content providers, not consumers.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:02 pm to
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If consumers need a fast lane they should be able to pay for it, if they don't they should be able to buy a slower lane.


So exactly how it is now ?
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:37 pm to
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Holy shite, I think I actually support the Dems on something
Don't worry Republicans will still veto on principle
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Don't worry Republicans will still veto on principle



I look forward to Republican President Obama attempting to veto this legislation.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:49 pm to
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So exactly how it is now ?


Yes, without all the behind closed doors slow downs and shake downs of content providers.
Posted by stlslick
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:58 pm to
If only the FCC and the government was worried about the shite service we get in America and the bloated prices we pay.

For christs sake, they still offer 2meg internet service. We should be looking at a bottom service of 10-20meg.

That doesn't even include the shite Phone service and prices we pay.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:02 pm to
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not sure where i fall on this topic


The best stance I can see is for the Dems to not try to fix a problem that hasn't happened yet. Let the FCC make a move then skull-frick them by saying they have gone beyond the scope of their authority then call it a day and have a beer.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:03 pm to
After reading more on it, frick net neutrality.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:08 pm to
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After reading more on it, frick net neutrality.
Then you are wrong.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:17 pm to
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After reading more on it, frick net neutrality.


So you like the idea of the internet being turned in channels and packages just like cable TV?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:31 pm to
If you have enough time to comment on Net Neutrality, you have enough time to watch this simple video from John Oliver.

LINK

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:38 pm to
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Then you are wrong.


I think he means frick the FCC for even thinking about letting the "fast lane" bullshite happen.

People usually propose laws that change the way things have been, thus the uninformed think that passing "net neutrality" is passing a law that will change things from the way they are now (where all data is treated the same) to favor the "fast lane" business model. It's a common mistake I see and completely understandable.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:55 pm to
Yeah, but he said
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After reading more on it, frick net neutrality.


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