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Should ball parks be held responsible for foul ball that injures a fan?

Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:42 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:42 am
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Ballpark operators, however, have typically had a safe harbor that shields them from having a jury decide whether they acted prudently. It’s called “The Baseball Rule,” and it’s a legal doctrine which underpins those little “we’re not liable for you getting injured by flying balls and bats” disclaimers on the back of your ticket.

The way it’s usually formulated by the courts is that stadium owners and operators must provide “screened seats for as many spectators as may be reasonably expected to call for them on any ordinary occasion,” and that if they do that, they’re legally absolved of liability. Typically, providing screens behind home plate and around to each side to some degree puts owners in the safe harbor. In that case, it’s a matter of law, not fact, and the judge will usually dismiss the case before it ever gets to a jury.

That rule has been challenged more and more in recent years. It’s still the majority rule across U.S. jurisdictions, but last year, for example, an Idaho court refused to adopt it in the case of a man injured by a foul ball and allowed a jury to decide whether the ballpark owner acted reasonably based on the facts and circumstances of the case rather than to simply dismiss it per The Baseball Rule. Now, in Atlanta, a family is challenging it in the wake of their six-year-old daughter suffering traumatic brain injury from a foul ball at a Braves game in 2010.


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As it is now, the warnings are pretty passive and the risks not as well-known as they could be. And the disclaimer system is something of a joke. Making each of these things more rigorous might have some small costs involved — kid-priced seats so as to identify and differentiate those who would sit in dangerous seats with children? A second piece of paper or an usher with a clipboard taking actual liability waivers? — but those costs pale compared to the sorts of liability awards teams might face if The Baseball Rule continues to be eroded.



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Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13548 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:43 am to
Hell no
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26574 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:44 am to
No. Life just has risks; what else can we expect ballpark owners to reasonably do?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:45 am to
Absolutely not.

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As it is now, the warnings are pretty passive and the risks not as well-known as they could be. And the disclaimer system is something of a joke


No..what's a joke is that parks have to spend time and manpower to make/post signage telling people that, at a BASEBALL GAME, that if you sit in an area without a fence in front of your face, you could possibly be hit.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80160 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:45 am to
Yes it's always someone else's fault
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:47 am to
Fans will have to start signing waiver of liability forms before going to games
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:49 am to
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Should ball parks be held responsible for foul ball that injures a fan?


Absolutely not.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25508 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:49 am to
No.

It's a joke that the risks 'aren't well known.' This is as bad as an NFL lineman claiming he didn't know that slamming his helmet into the opposition over several years could have ill effects on his brain.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:49 am to
Surprise they don't have them with season ticket holders and when you buy online honestly
Posted by Grizzley
Member since May 2014
935 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:49 am to
No. Could you imagine how many people would cry wolf if the ball park were liable for this?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:50 am to
No. Should golf courses be liable for golf balls that strike patrons?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93693 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:50 am to
You know the risks when you go into the park.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:52 am to
Whenever I see a ball hit someone or come close it's usually a female paying more attention to her cell phone than the game.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66890 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:02 am to
Assuming the ball parks nets are maintained in a reasonably safe condition, no they should not be liable. If the ball park owner/management lets their nets go into disrepair and and ball goes through and injures somebody, then it's a question for a jury IMO
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:04 am to
Yes. Personal responsibility has no place in tomorrow's AmeriKa.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:04 am to
Hell no.
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
2076 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:09 am to
HELL NO
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78912 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:19 am to
Sounds like a liberal idea....or someone trying to get something for nothing. You go to a game to watch THE GAME. There is inherent risk in leaving your house, but you do it anyway.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79117 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:20 am to
"Be held"? No.

Should MLB teams and stadiums who profit mightily from your attendance help out in cases of catastrophic injury? Of course.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16403 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:26 am to
No they shouldn't be responsible. When you go to a ballgame you need to pay attention and put the phone away. Facebook and twitter will be there when the game is over. If you sit along the lines, balls will be hit in your area.
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