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Advice on charter boat captains

Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by SouthLa.Tiger
Prarieville
Member since Jul 2005
133 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:35 am
Had a very disapointing experience with a charter captain last weekend. The low pressure system that stalled in Louisiana last week gave high winds, rain and dirty water. We had a charter to fish inland (speckled trout) on Sunday and Monday. Forecast was for 15-20 knt. Winds 3-4 foot seas and rain. Went out of hopedale last Sunday and tried the trout fishing. Dirty water and high seas made trout fishing impossible. We resorted to fishing reds in the marsh and we limited out. Next day Monday was calling for higher winds and more rain. I asked the capt. If we could reschedule the trip as we did not want to catch more reds. He informed me thar he was a fishing charter captain not a speckled trout captain and if I wanted to cancel I would lose my $200 deposit. Question is do all captains operate this way? The same thing happened last November with a small craft warning and temps in the 40's I had to forfeit my deposit this time $300 and no trip. When do captains let you reschedule a trip due to bad weather? Been fishing with this captain since 2006 and do 3-4 trips per year at $800 to $1000 each. Would think a repeat customer would be treated better. What do you think? Any experience with this?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:41 am to
Sounds like a tool. Most captains I have fished with are overly cautious not the other way around.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5509 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:47 am to
In my experience, the captain typically wants to have a good trip so they are inclined to reschedule before I am.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58645 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:00 am to
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In my experience, the captain typically wants to have a good trip so they are inclined to reschedule before I am.
This. I've missed my last 2 tuna trips because captain said it just wasn't worth it.

The guy you used sounds like a jackass and no way in hell would I use him again
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:02 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10749 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:04 am to
I would find someone else to spend my money with.

I understand that you/he cant control the weather, but he can control trip scheduling/rescheduling and what happens with your deposit.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61609 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:07 am to
frick that guy, post his information
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

frick that guy, post his information
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1597 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:42 am to
Frick that. I am so tired of crummy guides getting away with stiff like this.

My freind is a good guide and usually calls me ahead when he thinks the water isn't right so we can reschedule.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 12:54 pm to
Post his information.....complete bullshite. Had to cancel an offshore trip due to poor conditions and the captain didn't give me any bs at all. It's also kind of odd if you fished with the guy that much that he required a deposit at all. Most guys I've chartered, including offshore don't bother.
Posted by Tbooux
Member since Oct 2011
1680 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 12:59 pm to
Would definitely out this guy as that is complete bull shite especially for a repeat customer like yourself.

All good charter captains want you to catch fish and have a good time and are usually more apt to cancel then the customer is.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58645 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Would definitely out this guy




Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4697 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 1:30 pm to
So anywhere from 24-32 trips the past 8 years and he was a smartass to you? Seems like a sort of friendship would be built after you spent 20k+ with the guy
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 4:55 pm to
Pop kern
Posted by delta3504
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
1848 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:06 pm to
Please tell us who this guy is so we don't have the unfortunate instance of suing him. It is your OB duty to out this guy.
Posted by WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
poolside at Cocal (UA since 2010)
Member since Dec 2009
2053 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

I asked the capt. If we could reschedule the trip as we did not want to catch more reds. He informed me thar he was a fishing charter captain not a speckled trout captain and if I wanted to cancel I would lose my $200 deposit.

Did you cancel?
quote:

The same thing happened last November with a small craft warning and temps in the 40's I had to forfeit my deposit this time $300 and no trip.

So, he didn't apply your deposit to a future trip?
quote:

Been fishing with this captain since 2006 and do 3-4 trips per year at $800 to $1000 each. Would think a repeat customer would be treated better.

Yes, you would think. Perhaps this guy just doesn't like you. Did you screw his wife?

Doesn't matter though...like others have said, you need to out this guy by posting his info.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:26 pm to
Plenty operate on the reds if conditions not right for specks rule...

Not defending the guy but comparing rough weather inshore and offshore= no comparison.

Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:30 pm to
Tough way to make a living.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:48 pm to
I understand that trout are at times finicky and reds are a good back up, but the guy was upfront with the guide about wanting to catch trout and it isn't like the conditions were just a little bad.....they were terrible. Under the circumstances of last week, he should have been refunded, no questions asked. If this would have been the first incident I would have given the guide the benefit of the doubt, but the story about fishing in the winter was bs too. Worst of all the guy was a great customer....f that.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 5:53 pm to
Depends on if it was booked as a speck trip or fishing trip
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 6/8/14 at 7:38 pm to
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Posted by choupiquesushi Depends on if it was booked as a speck trip or fishing trip


I was going to play devils advocate but if the guy advertises specs, the op has a reasonable expectation that this time of year, specs will be attempted.

If you booked with an offshore guide that has tuna and snapper and aj and wahoo and whatever else listed on his website then heads to the first rig and you drop for snapper and head in and he says it's just a fishing charter, would you be pissed? Technically same situation.

Fwiw, I have extreme distrust of charter captains.
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