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On Which ESPN and MLB Goofballs Ponder Baseball's "Unwritten Rules"
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:30 pm
The Unwritten Canon, Revealed
First off, this is a long read. But, it's a good read if not only for all the flat out wrongness that is put on paper (or interweb) from real life, honest MLB players.
The one I want to focus on is #4 at the bottom of the article: bunting during a no-hitter.
I've never understood this unwritten rule, especially in the first example given where Curt Schilling was perfect gaming the Padres in 2001. Ben Davis--a catcher with subpar catcher's speed--laid down a bunt single in the eighth inning of a game in which his team was down 2-0.
Well, everyone lost their minds. They were appalled. Why? It was a 2-0 game. If Davis reaches base, the tying run comes to the plate. You know, winning and stuff. Not to mention, why would Curt Schilling want the last outs of his perfect game be tainted by hitters basically giving up?
Something else covered in the article (before they count down the 5 unwritten bullshits) is basically all about Yasiel Puig and the bat flip, or showboating.
I personally hate showboating, but I love how the other team reacts or responds to it. Like the example with Carlos Gomez and Brian McCann. That was fantastic.
Anyway, am I totally out of my mind here? I think a lot of the stuff the players have to say is just about as backwards as can be.
First off, this is a long read. But, it's a good read if not only for all the flat out wrongness that is put on paper (or interweb) from real life, honest MLB players.
The one I want to focus on is #4 at the bottom of the article: bunting during a no-hitter.
I've never understood this unwritten rule, especially in the first example given where Curt Schilling was perfect gaming the Padres in 2001. Ben Davis--a catcher with subpar catcher's speed--laid down a bunt single in the eighth inning of a game in which his team was down 2-0.
Well, everyone lost their minds. They were appalled. Why? It was a 2-0 game. If Davis reaches base, the tying run comes to the plate. You know, winning and stuff. Not to mention, why would Curt Schilling want the last outs of his perfect game be tainted by hitters basically giving up?
Something else covered in the article (before they count down the 5 unwritten bullshits) is basically all about Yasiel Puig and the bat flip, or showboating.
I personally hate showboating, but I love how the other team reacts or responds to it. Like the example with Carlos Gomez and Brian McCann. That was fantastic.
Anyway, am I totally out of my mind here? I think a lot of the stuff the players have to say is just about as backwards as can be.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:34 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
I personally hate showboating, but I love how the other team reacts or responds to it. Like the example with Carlos Gomez and Brian McCann. That was fantastic.
We are on the same page here. I enjoy the reaction of "pimpin' a homerun" better than the actual showboating.
quote:
Not to mention, why would Curt Schilling want the last outs of his perfect game be tainted by hitters basically giving up?
MSB had a thread on not running out a passed ball 3rd strike on the last out of a no-no or perfect game. I had the same thought as you. As a pitcher, I wouldn't want any of my 27 outs to be tainted by a person not trying.
So basically, I agree with what you wrote.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:06 pm to The Sad Banana
it shows his immaturity...
Maybe he'll grow out of it, cause it looks stupid.
Maybe he'll grow out of it, cause it looks stupid.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:16 pm to The Sad Banana
The MLB is full of fricking women.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:19 pm to The Sad Banana
One of the worst aspects of baseball.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:27 pm to heypaul
quote:
it shows his immaturity...
No, it doesn't. Who cares? Who does it hurt?
And why is it ok for David Ortiz to stand and look at his HRs for 10 seconds. The Rays are the only team that seem to care.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:46 pm to witty alias
quote:
No. 1: Do not cross the HR pimp line
No. 2: There will be blood … in retaliation
No. 3: Thou shalt not steal … up 10 runs
No. 4: A bunt in a no-no is the devil's work
No. 5: Ice a big-lead swing on a 3-0 pitch
No. 1- You hit your homer, you jog the bases, you slap hands with your teammates, and then you sit down. I enjoy watching the epic bat flips, don't get me wrong, but if I'm pitching, the next guy is wearing one.
No. 2- See response to No. 1.
No. 3- Station to station with that kind of lead. You don't try to get out, but you don't steal or stretch a single into a double.
No. 4- I'm laying it down.
No. 5- If we are up ten, most likely I'm not stretching it into a double, so a walk and a hit are the same thing, I just padded my average a little. If you don't want to give up a 3-0 single, don't get behind in counts.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:05 pm to witty alias
quote:In the article the players say it's okay. That makes me sick. I don't know what it's like to be part of the mlb fraternity but I would not like Ortiz doing that and him thinking it's cute and we're all supposed to think it's cute. He's getting one in the arse next AB.
And why is it ok for David Ortiz to stand and look at his HRs for 10 seconds. The Rays are the only team that seem to care
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:59 pm to The Sad Banana
quote:
He's getting one in the arse next AB.
and then your best player is getting drilled. Now when he's furious, he comes to you pissed off. So because you don't like something, one of your own teammates now wants to fight you. So what do you do now?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:00 am to LfcSU3520
quote:
So what do you do now?
Retire.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:02 am to LfcSU3520
That's not how it works
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:18 am to The Sad Banana
quote:There is no logic whatsoever to be mad about that dude bunting in that spot. none.
The one I want to focus on is #4 at the bottom of the article: bunting during a no-hitter.
I've never understood this unwritten rule, especially in the first example given where Curt Schilling was perfect gaming the Padres in 2001. Ben Davis--a catcher with subpar catcher's speed--laid down a bunt single in the eighth inning of a game in which his team was down 2-0.
Well, everyone lost their minds. They were appalled. Why? It was a 2-0 game. If Davis reaches base, the tying run comes to the plate. You know, winning and stuff. Not to mention, why would Curt Schilling want the last outs of his perfect game be tainted by hitters basically giving up?
quote:I also think this one is dumb, very dumb. Guys celebrate in all sports, a bat flip is fairly innocent and there's no reason why in every single instance the pitcher should think he's intentionally being disrespectful. Who cares, it's a game, celebrate when you do something good, a bat flip is by no means going too far IMO.
Something else covered in the article (before they count down the 5 unwritten bullshites) is basically all about Yasiel Puig and the bat flip, or showboating.
I personally hate showboating, but I love how the other team reacts or responds to it. Like the example with Carlos Gomez and Brian McCann. That was fantastic.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:19 am to witty alias
quote:Man, I was literally going to quote that same line and ask these 2 exact questions, well done.
Who cares? Who does it hurt?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:21 am to Atom Knab
quote:Does no one else realize how cowardly it is to not address your issue with the previous player and instead to try to hit the next batter?
but if I'm pitching, the next guy is wearing one.
In what world is that logical and not just a huge cowardly act?
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:23 am to The Sad Banana
quote:I try not to dabble too much with hyperbole, but could this be one of the greatest unintentionally funny posts in MSB history?
That's not how it works
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:04 pm to Atom Knab
quote:
No. 1- You hit your homer, you jog the bases, you slap hands with your teammates, and then you sit down. I enjoy watching the epic bat flips, don't get me wrong, but if I'm pitching, the next guy is wearing one.
If I was a manager I'd pull my pitcher if he just gave up a HR and then intentionally hit the next batter to put him on base all because the guy who hit the homerun celebrated hitting a dinger.
I'd tell him he's a pussy bitch that needs to check his ego and not frick his team over.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:17 pm to shel311
quote:
Does no one else realize how cowardly it is to not address your issue with the previous player and instead to try to hit the next batter?
Too much delay. Hitting the next batter is a quicker response than waiting until the guy who pimped the homer comes back up.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:18 pm to Atom Knab
quote:
Too much delay. Hitting the next batter is a quicker response than waiting until the guy who pimped the homer comes back up.
Or just not be a butthurt bitch about giving up a dinger. The pitcher has that option.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:19 pm to shel311
quote:
Does no one else realize how cowardly it is to not address your issue with the previous player and instead to try to hit the next batter?
Well logically if you're so mad about giving up a homerun and want to take it out on someone it makes sense to just hit the next guy up since the bases are empty.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:21 pm to Atom Knab
Pitchers are the biggest wet vaginas in sports. They get their shitty pitch destroyed, batter celebrates, pitcher beans either the next batter or him. How the frick is that okay?
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