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Zea's trout
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:45 pm
Why do they sell rainbow trout and not speckled?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:47 pm to Neauxla
rainbow trout = mountain tilapia
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:49 pm to Neauxla
Can get it year round for cheap
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:13 pm to Neauxla
farm raised fresh fish, vs local caught brackish/salt water fish.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:18 pm to Neauxla
Only thing I can think of is that it's easy to grill rainbow trout but not specs.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:36 pm to Napoleon
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farm raised fresh fish, vs local caught brackish/salt water fish
Specks in retail here are farm raised.
You were probably eating swai anyway.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:38 pm to AlwysATgr
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Only thing I can think of is that it's easy to grill rainbow trout but not specs
Leave the skin on and they are just as easy to grill.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:15 pm to magildachunks
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Leave the skin on and they are just as easy to grill.
Will have to try this. All I've got now are two bags of filets but have a trip tentatively planned for 5/17.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:30 am to Neauxla
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Why do they sell rainbow trout and not speckled?
1) The public doesn't demand it or even know why preferring local fresh fish is more desirable to farmed fish, or even fish from clear across the country or other countries.
2) The restaurant doesn't care or know why they should either because it's raining money and not a F was given, and/or the decision makers and those ordering aren't really food people, but trained in a system, their system.
3) The market is so weak in its call for fresh speckled trout that it drives buying fresh local fish, speckled trout in particular, or even fish in general as being quite inconsistent, un-dependable, and difficult to source at times.
4) Price and margin with farm raised trout trumps buying local fresh speckled trout.
5) Government regulations whether sound or over regulating.
Any one of these drive this IMO, and most likely a combination of many if not all.
That being said, the issue for me is less in buying Louisiana Speckled Trout to farmed Rainbow Trout in particular as it is in buying fresh caught Louisiana Seafood regardless of the fish to out of state farmed fish, and creating the fish of the day entree out of what you can get your hands on at that moment in time, be it specks, redfish, flounder, drum, amberjack, etc. same thing goes for shrimp, oysters, etc when in season, which is also a principle people lack in understanding and why it's important, buying seasonal, not to mention local and thus fresh.
The trouble with places like Zeas is that they aren't geared toward that because of the reasons above, and them being a chain versus a local restaurant intent on buying fresh fish, and make it a point to do so in doing what it takes to source it which takes a little more effort than calling one of their big purveyors they always call for many or most other things and just ordering what they have consistently on hand and plenty of. Zeas is not going to rewrite their menu to cater to fresh caught of the day because it's not their business model and their staff almost surely doesn't have that flexibility to make those decisions.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 6:53 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:59 am to magildachunks
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Specks in retail here are farm raised.
Where do they farm raise specs at? Haven't heard of that before. Unless it's a new thing. Trout coming out of Mexico has always been wild trout from what I gathered. We used to buy truck loads of tuna out of Mexico and had a contact to buy wild speckle trout from similar areas where we got the tuna.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:57 am to Mike da Tigah
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Zeas is not going to rewrite their menu to cater to fresh caught of the day because it's not their business model and their staff almost surely doesn't have that flexibility to make those decisions.
I was at Zea's a few weeks ago and they had fresh drum on their menu so they do serve fresh gulf fish.
As for why they serve rainbow trout, probably some of your reasons above. Speckle trout is very hard to come by in Louisiana given the strict regulations we have here. Rainbow trout is also different/unique and consistently available compared to specks.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:19 am to Mike da Tigah
When is the last time you have eaten at Zea?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:27 am to Neauxla
Farmed vs wild is the first easy answer. Restrictions on speck fishing is the next one.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:30 am to Neauxla
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Why do they sell rainbow trout and not speckled?
Have you ever been to Zea's when it wasn't packed?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:45 am to JasonL79
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Where do they farm raise specs at? Haven't heard of that before. Unless it's a new thing. Trout coming out of Mexico has always been wild trout from what I gathered. We used to buy truck loads of tuna out of Mexico and had a contact to buy wild speckle trout from similar areas where we got the tuna.
Texas. Texas has a huge farming industry at the moment.
Unless the specks specifically say wild caught, they are now farm-raised to meet demands. Restaurants where they are a mainstay on the menu usually buy them in bulk as farm raised. Or they are using swai. (Some also use swai to substitute for catfish as well.)
And yes, wild caught is usually from Mexico. Very little actual fish comes from Louisiana anymore. Our guys are shipping them elsewhere for more money, leaving us to have to import.
Shrimp and oysters are still local. As are crab. But crab season has been sucking lately because the crabbers are sending there wares to Maryland at the beginning of the season to get more money.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:46 am to JasonL79
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Rainbow trout is also different/unique
And delicious.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:08 am to Mike da Tigah
And none of the non-chain BR restaurants use Chinese crawfish?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:09 pm to magildachunks
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Where do they farm raise specs at? Haven't heard of that before. Unless it's a new thing. Trout coming out of Mexico has always been wild trout from what I gathered. We used to buy truck loads of tuna out of Mexico and had a contact to buy wild speckle trout from similar areas where we got the tuna.
Texas. Texas has a huge farming industry at the moment.
What farms in Texas? I can't find any info online about it and I know as of 2-3 years ago there were none.
I know texas has a few different redfish farms. Copper Shoals redfish farm and Redfish Unlimited are two that I have bought from wholesale. I think there were one or two other ones but all of them only did fresh redfish.
All of the wholesale fish processors in the city had to basically beg for speckle trout because it was so hard to get and the supply was inconsistent on it.
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Our guys are shipping them elsewhere for more money, leaving us to have to import.
The only fresh local fish that gets shipped out of state is red snapper and sometimes grouper. There isn't a lot of fish caught in LA anymore. It's basically black drum, small amounts of flounder, yellowfin tuna & offshore bycatch (swordfish,mahi,wahoo,escolar,etc.), red snapper, small amounts of cobia/lemon fish, small amounts of grouper, small amounts of amberjack,etc.
Everything else fresh is brought in from the west coast (lobsters, clams, scallops, salmon, misc. fish) and South America (snappers,salmon,grouper,mahi,tuna,excolar,wahoo,eetc.) Fresh yellowfin is also imported from Asia(mostly Vietnam).
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 4/24/14 at 5:34 pm to Neauxla
Speckled trout isn't trout it's actually a drum
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