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Advice on negotiating a severance when I resign voluntarily...

Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29649 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:26 pm
I asked on the OT but probably should have asked here.

I want to resign but Im leaving the job in much better shape than when I found it. What advice would you give on asking and negotiation a severance?

How many weeks in customary?

Thanks very much!
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:27 pm to
Severance for resigning? I don't know if that is customary...
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Advice on negotiating a severance when I resign voluntarily...


LOL Wut?

I have never heard of this being customary.

Depending on your role, you will be lucky if they allow you to work out your last two weeks and not just say thanks, but no thanks...
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29649 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

I have never heard of this being customary.


Oh, I dont know that it is. Was asking what amount is customary if in fact it does occur.

I'm in outside sales and my boss lives several states away. It would be possible for me to quit working and be collecting 6 mo of pay before they actually fired me if I wanted.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

It would be possible for me to quit working and be collecting 6 mo of pay before they actually fired me if I wanted.





May be a better route.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29649 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

May be a better route.


Im considering it.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1405 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

How many weeks in customary?


depending on your position, it is customary to offer a two week notice in order to help train your replacement

quote:

What advice would you give on asking and negotiation a severance?


My advice- don't ask for anything but a favorable recomendation to your next employer
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29649 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

My advice- don't ask for anything but a favorable recomendation to your next employer


I'm already hired.
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
Member since Jul 2012
2658 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:47 pm to
What we typically do with our managers is the following: the employee puts in their 2-weeks notice, we terminate their employment immediately and pay them their full wages for two weeks. The employee gets a full two week paycheck on schedule and they do not have to work.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1405 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

I'm already hired.


Still, no need to risk burning the bridge.

If someone quit on me and then asked for severance pay, this would probably overshadow a lot of good job performance.

It's just bad form.
Posted by mkibod1
South of the Donna Dixon Line
Member since Jan 2011
4744 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:10 pm to
My father recently voluntarily resigned from his job for another venture. The company he was with gave him 1 month pay with backpay for any unused vacation he had and 2 months insurance. That was the first time I had heard of a severance package for resigning and even he was surprised to hear it when they offered it.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:13 pm to
I'd laugh at you if you asked for that....you are quitting, why would I want to give you anymore money? The only way I would do that is if this is some sort of sales position, and there was a possibility of you taking some customers, then the only way you would get anything would be by signing a no compete clause.

As far as vacation....if you have earned the vacation, I think they have to pay you for it.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

As far as vacation....if you have earned the vacation, I think they have to pay you for it.


This depends on the state, in LA the employer is not obligated to pay for unused vacation. I believe like only 5-6 states force the employer to pay.

To the OP, the best I ever got was a payout for unused vacation (in LA), but I also agreed to stay an extra 2 weeks longer. I wouldn't ask for anything but a good word.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15043 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 5:49 pm to
The Law Offices of OT & MB, LLP, where our motto is "you get what you pay for."
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17183 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:09 pm to
Everything I have read regarding previous court cases state that if the vacation is accrued and not gifted and you give proper notice of termination, that the company is obligated to pay earned unused vacation
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

I'm in outside sales


not sure how you get paid, but your best bet is to negotiate commission for any deals that are on the books but haven't invoiced yet, or ones that haven't been collected if you're paid with the company is paid. If you're going to a competitor, that's probably out the window as well. Otherwise I can't imagine someone giving you a severance when you're the one leaving.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:39 pm to
Make them lay you off
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:41 pm to
There is no such thing as severance in sales unless the company is laying off or folding. Good luck with the 2 week notice as well. In sales, you'll be lucky to work through the end of the day you let them know you're leaving,
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:43 pm to
I would split the difference. If they won't notice for 6 months, work for say 3 months, inform them of two weeks and leave on a good note with 3 months salary.

Have your cake and eat it too bro
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35482 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

How many weeks in customary?


It's not customary ever.

Let's put it this way. You're much more likely to get a "don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out" than you are to get severance.
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