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Money is not an issue and we will be fine.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:23 pm
With people wigging out about this and that I figured I'd post something to show how easy it is to get enough cap space to get almost any player we want.
Using this(thanks blues):
LINK
We are at $5.74m under(as of now Sproles isn't cut on this list so you just manually do it) and if we restructure just 2 guys who will be here long term(Evans and Lewis) we can be up to $11.46m under with more options still left to consider.
And this only puts $2.8m extra on next year's cap($31.48 to $28.69 under with a projected $140m cap which could be higher) which isn't a lot compared to how much it's going to go up and the high probability we redo Brees next year to save a shite ton more.
We could still cut Thomas and Bunkley(Bunkley after June 1st). Their savings are $2.9m and $1.28m($4.5m after June 1st) respectively.
And we'd still have the option to restructure some or all of Brees', Grubbs', Colston's, and Lofton's money to save more.
Just to give you the extreme we could be $33.35m under this year if we cut Thomas and Bunkley and restructure Brees, Evans, Grubbs, Colston, Lofton, and Lewis.
And it doesn't put as much as you'd think on next year's cap, only dropping it to $24.43m under($7m less room than currently projected with 6 players restructured).
So just know that money isn't going to keep us from building our team and going after the guys we want to.
Using this(thanks blues):
LINK
We are at $5.74m under(as of now Sproles isn't cut on this list so you just manually do it) and if we restructure just 2 guys who will be here long term(Evans and Lewis) we can be up to $11.46m under with more options still left to consider.
And this only puts $2.8m extra on next year's cap($31.48 to $28.69 under with a projected $140m cap which could be higher) which isn't a lot compared to how much it's going to go up and the high probability we redo Brees next year to save a shite ton more.
We could still cut Thomas and Bunkley(Bunkley after June 1st). Their savings are $2.9m and $1.28m($4.5m after June 1st) respectively.
And we'd still have the option to restructure some or all of Brees', Grubbs', Colston's, and Lofton's money to save more.
Just to give you the extreme we could be $33.35m under this year if we cut Thomas and Bunkley and restructure Brees, Evans, Grubbs, Colston, Lofton, and Lewis.
And it doesn't put as much as you'd think on next year's cap, only dropping it to $24.43m under($7m less room than currently projected with 6 players restructured).
So just know that money isn't going to keep us from building our team and going after the guys we want to.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:48 pm to oncealurker
Thank you.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:04 pm to bonethug0108
This is why we're taking over.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:17 pm to St Augustine
Some people say my posts are too long. Some people say, "Hey Bone, tl;dr."
Well I got something else that's too long and it made your momma's scream. Because I'm Big Sexy and I'm just too sweeettttt!
Well I got something else that's too long and it made your momma's scream. Because I'm Big Sexy and I'm just too sweeettttt!
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:44 pm to bonethug0108
You must be taking about your penis.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:52 pm to Spelt it rong
Posted on 3/8/14 at 12:49 am to bonethug0108
Long enough; read it
Love
Love
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:54 am to bonethug0108
Not long enough.
Good stuff. It sucks that most of the people whining right now won't read or understand this. It's almost as bad as the idiot comments on pft.
So thank you and others in this thread for being reasonable.
Good stuff. It sucks that most of the people whining right now won't read or understand this. It's almost as bad as the idiot comments on pft.
So thank you and others in this thread for being reasonable.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:48 am to bonethug0108
quote:
We could still cut Thomas and Bunkley(Bunkley after June 1st). Their savings are $2.9m and $1.28m($4.5m after June 1st) respectively
Cutting our top run stopper while Jenkins is only in his second season to me isn't a good idea. He restructured last year didn't he?
quote:
And we'd still have the option to restructure some or all of Brees', Grubbs', Colston's, and Lofton's money to save more.
I think we did enough restructuring last year to keep us in a mess for the next couple years. Hopefully no more restructuring, at least no more than one player.
I wanna sign Graham back bad but its not worth getting rid of players that are still good contributors, esp on the D side of the ball.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:11 am to bonethug0108
quote:
With people wigging out about this and that I figured I'd post something to show how easy it is to get enough cap space to get almost any player we want.
Thanks for posting this, but I pretty much knew this to be the case, even though I haven't sat down and figured it out like you have. It needed to be said though.
I'm wondering if Jimmy's camp is preparing to field offers today. Maybe it's a calculated move by both sides, and that's why the grievance hasn't been filed. We might have told Graham how high we're willing to go, so they both agreed to see what the market would yield. Afterall, a long term deal is what he wants.
If we do strike a long term deal with Jimmy, it'll most likely give us cap space for this year.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 7:24 am to bonethug0108
and good job on the post length
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:02 am to windshieldman
quote:I agree I don't like the idea of cutting our best interior run defender(Jordan was our best overall).
Cutting our top run stopper while Jenkins is only in his second season to me isn't a good idea. He restructured last year didn't he?
BUT he only played 25% of the snaps last year and is making not only starter money but very good starter money.
If he is willing to take a pay cut to stay I'd love to keep him, but his contract this year and the next 2 after is way too large for his role.
This is the exact reason Moore, Sproles, and Harper got cut(though out of all of them Harper was being used far more per game).
quote:If you fully understand how the cap and contracts work then you know that back loading and restructuring are key to running a successful franchise when you are paying a top QB(or any extremely high priced guy(s)).
I think we did enough restructuring last year to keep us in a mess for the next couple years.
We are actually in pretty damn good shape next year and my point was to show how little of the cap we lose in the future vs. the extreme amount of restructures.
I think more realistically you do the 2 or 3 guys that you know are in your future plans because we need the cap more this year than next year, especially with the cap ballooning up in the coming years.
And the back loading helps with this because it allows you to pay really good players less than their per year number really is because they usually don't see the final year or two as originally structured.
That means just when it seems we are in cap hell we easily pull our way out by cutting guys that are too old and expensive for their contracts. It's necessary. Don't be surprised if Colston is gone next year for instance(unless he takes a pay cut).
As long as you keep the restructures within reason(definitely don't want to push $10m+ forward into each year every year) like my example of only Evans and Lewis(puts($2.8m on next year's cap) we'll be fine.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:03 am to Spelt it rong
quote:It's a legit wrestling promo(short one) with Booker T where he calls Hogan a certain word. I wouldn't do a meatspin or anything like that to you guys.
I'm not clicking that
quote:I actually mocked up a fake contract and it can save us some money over the TE tag but it was only about $1m.
If we do strike a long term deal with Jimmy, it'll most likely give us cap space for this year.
Where the need to get it done comes in is if he gets the WR tag which at that point is where a trade becomes at least somewhat likely, or a hybrid tag which then forces both sides to want to get a long term deal done.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:07 am to bonethug0108
Bone bone bone bone bone bone bone bone....so tell me what you gonna do
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:10 am to kyledavis
Just wait until we don't sign any big names the first couple of days of FA...the little bitches will come out of the woodwork.
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:13 am to bonethug0108
quote:
That means just when it seems we are in cap hell we easily pull our way out by cutting guys that are too old and expensive for their contracts. It's necessary. Don't be surprised if Colston is gone next year for instance(unless he takes a pay cut).
Can you explain the restructuring a little bit.
Let's say hypothetically Colston signed a 5 year 35 million dollar deal. Yet we backloaded year 4 & 5 with 20 million of that.
We can just cut him with no repercussions in year 4? How much of that 20 million would be dead money?
TIA
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