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Lobster Base for etouffee?

Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:46 am
If I was wanting to add some depth of flavor in my etouffee, would this be ok to add since I did not see crawfish base.....?
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:20 pm to
Lobster base for crawfish etouffee? I'm sure it would be better than just water, but now that we're in crawfish season, I highly recommend building a genuine crawfish stock, and use the crawfish 'fat' as well.

Where did you get the tail eat from?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:22 pm to
Did you look at the suggestions we gave you in the other thread you started on seafood base?

I'd use the More Than Gourmet seafood rather than lobster base especially if that base is salty.

What are the ingredients in the lobster base you want to use?
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

would this be ok to add since I did not see crawfish base..


Yes. should be fine. try it and report back.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:31 pm to
Here's a crawfish base, but it doesn't list the ingredients.

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Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:44 pm to
Got tail meat from the new Leblancs. Was thinking of making my own stock, I would just have to grab a couple pounds of boiled crawfish.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:49 pm to
If you uses the already boiled crawfish for your stock, be aware that those seasonings will be in your stock and if the crawfish are highly peppered, your stock might be too peppery hot. I've washed/rinsed boiled before and it was still not usable. If you know of a place that seasons after the boil, you could ask for a few pounds with no additional seasoning or ask for mild if they offer various heats. Or, you could get a few pounds of live and use those.

The fat provides a lot of flavor, so that's another option. Get some boiled and take the fat from the heads and use it. You can add the tails to the dish as well. It doesn't take much unless you're making a large quantity.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by puse01
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:49 pm to
I use chicken base or lobster base, or both.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

wanting to add some depth of flavor in my etouffee
Post the recipe for advice...
Posted by Kajungee
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:55 pm to
Get a few lbs of boiled for the fat. No need to make a stock. All you need is as much fat as you can get.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Get a few lbs of boiled for the fat.


Really, this is the best option.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:00 pm to
I use the fat in the peeled tails, butter, and my aromatics and seasonings for flavor building. I'm not a fan of boiled crawfish flavors in my etouffee...just my preference. I do ALWAYS run a few ounces of water though my tailmeat package to get all of the goodness out. That's my "stock".
Posted by tdavi48
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:00 pm to
I usually do my own variation similar to the Plantation Cookbook recipe.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:09 pm to
I use the second recipe (I think) in the River Roads book. Very few mods. Simple and awesome.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:10 pm to
If I recall correctly, it has a plethora of ingredients including tomato sauce which I don't care for in my etouffee. It's a New Orleans cookbook and one that I like a lot, but the etouffee is more of a creole version. It's not a bad dish if you don't use the clam juice, but it doesn't taste like etouffee to me. It reminds me of a very herby shrimp creole.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Get a few lbs of boiled for the fat. No need to make a stock. All you need is as much fat as you can get.


I disagree. If you're going to get the crawfish, why not go ahead and make a stock? You already have the shells/heads. Crawfish stock definitely kicks it up a notch in flavor.

I use a blonde butter roux for my 'base'. I add the flour after the Trinity, the way Folse does. Keeps the butter roux from getting dark.

And FWIW, I like using crawfish boil shells/heads to make a stock. I rinse them thoroughly and boil them in water, with no other ingredients. Just my preference.
Posted by LSURJP
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:15 pm to
Eat'em crawfish base. Calandro's has it in the seafood case
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:16 pm to
This is what I've been doing. It's somewhat similar to Otis's recipe, I think. It's a good dish, but there are lots of variations that are good that other folks prefer.

Crawfish Etouffee:
2 lb. crawfish tails (fresh or frozen)
Crawfish fat
1-1/2 stick butter
1 lg. onion, chopped
1/2 chopped bell pepper
1 stalk celery, finely chopped
2 cloves garlic
2 tbsp. chopped fresh parsley
2 tbsp. chopped green onion tops
Salt, black pepper, and red pepper to taste
1 tbsp. cornstarch


Season the crawfish tails and set aside.
In a saucepan over medium heat melt 1 stick of butter then sauté onions, bell pepper, and celery until they are clear add minced garlic. Add crawfish fat and 3/4 cup of water or seafood stock then let simmer 10 minutes. Add the seasoned crawfish tails and cook for 10 minutes over medium low heat.
Dissolve the cornstarch in a 1/4 cup of cold water and slowly add a little of the cornstarch mixture to thicken as/if desired. And let simmer for 5 minutes.
Add green onions and fresh parsley and seasoning as desired. Let simmer a few minutes more.
Then remove from heat cover and let rest for 5 minutes.

Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Eat'em crawfish base. Calandro's has it in the seafood case



That's interesting. Do you know what the ingredients are?
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 1:20 pm to
Very similar, though I think I'm using about 2.5 to 3 sticks of butter for a 2 lb recipe, and I'm doing a blonde, quick roux with flour .Double the garlic and about 1/3 cup of water from the tailmeat pakage rinse. Pure, simple good flavors.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 1:21 pm
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