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Do we live in a police state?

Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:36 am
Reading about the guy in Oklahoma got me thinking...

If we lived in a police state would we know it? It's kind of like the frog in the boiling water- if you heat the water slowly, the frog will never know it's hot and boil to death.

So I ask you the Poliboard, do we live in a police state?
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:38 am to
Yes. We also now have a thought police just look at the way the left bullies anyone who disagrees with them.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:40 am to
History reveals police states are usually clandestine. We're becoming the exception to that rule.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:40 am to
I'm much more concerned about things at the Federal level, than at the local.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67129 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:42 am to
duh
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:02 am to
quote:

So I ask you the Poliboard, do we live in a police state?


I'd say not yet, but the signs suggest we've been trending that way.

At the local level cops have always been bad and really bad beginning in the 70s when people freaked out over drug crime and elected all these law and order assholes.

I think the real concern, real police state stuff, is occurring at the Fed level with the NSA data collection, TSA and the extra-judicial drone murders of US citizens.

So the water is warm, still livable, but the temp seems to be rising.
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

do we live in a police state?



Yes.

For a further explanation, please see:

Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:28 am to
Is this a trick question?


Hell yes we do. Some citizens have found out about it with a drone strike to prove it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54215 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:

It's kind of like the frog in the boiling water


I hope that the majority of the American people are smarter than a frog but hey, the way things are looking, you could be right.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:39 am to
The war on drugs
The patriot act

Yes we live in a police state, sooner or later I think we will have to wrestle control back. I think the events in CT may be the beginnings of that.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56382 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

History reveals police states are usually clandestine
No it doesn't.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

do we live in a police state?


yes
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20903 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:40 am to
quote:

At the local level cops have always been bad and really bad beginning in the 70s when people freaked out over drug crime and elected all these law and order assholes.

Just look at the current list of topics being discussed even here:

-Texas man blows 0.00 on breathalyzer, blood test- still arrested, year later exonerated
-Wife slaps daughter, husband suffocated by cops

Or topics discussed nationally

-No refusal DWI stops with automatic search warrant
-Red light cameras with no appeals process
-Police using license plate scanners tracking movement of your vehicle
-NSA tracking your emails, history, etc without a warrant or cause
-TSA's excessive searches
The list goes on... It's all across the board.

At what point do people say enough is enough?
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

think the events in CT may be the beginnings of that.


truly disgusting and disgraceful behavior by the authorities.
Posted by DanTiger
Somewhere in Luziana
Member since Sep 2004
9480 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:47 am to
I am not sure that we are there quite yet but we do need to correct our course. This is the definition of a police state:

po·lice state
noun
noun: police state; plural noun: police states1. a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.


Police operate in the open but the big G has been secretly collecting information on all of us.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:43 pm to
I just hope we can correct it without innocent bloodshed. I wouldn't doubt that at some point people start fighting back. It will be interesting how the cops will react when this happens.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66668 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
what do you mean by police state.

Obviosuyl there is a threshold for something like this, and a certain level of policing tha people understand and want.

We aren't in a full on Gestapo type police state obviously. (no matter what people say)
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22503 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

If we lived in a police state would we know it?
I am coming to the conclusion that we may be on the very edge of really living in a bona fide police state. And that the next couple of years will be crucial in determining whether we go into a "full-blown" police state or back away from this terrible abyss.

In my entire life, I have never, ever thought to be afraid of my government. I am now in the process of re-thinking that matter. It's not a happy place to be.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

No it doesn't.

You're wrong.

The various apparatus used by police states are usually clandestine and accomplish their goal without public awareness.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/27/14 at 2:25 pm to
And what police state has existed that wasn't obviously a police state?
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