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Wells Fargo Employee Fired for Carrying Concealed Handgun

Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:01 pm
Fired

Gaston, you may like this story since she seems to be carrying an HK.

Who do y'all think is in the right/wrong? While I strongly disagree and hate the WF policy on disarming their employees, the company is private and they are allowed to make any policy they please.

Comments?
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:05 pm to
I don't agree with the policy, but they are well within their right to have such a policy.
Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3837 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:07 pm to
My firm is the same way. Not allowed on property which includes parking lot

I can understand it. No problem with it
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 7:08 pm
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6142 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Not allowed on property which includes parking lot


My company is the same however I'm not taking my gun out of my vehicle. They can DIAF
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

WF policy on disarming their employees, the company is private and they are allowed to make any policy they please.


Well, if it's there policy of no guns in the work place, one should not work there if they want to CC.

The employee was wrong. Should of left it in car.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29272 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

the company is private and they are allowed to make any policy they please.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57137 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:17 pm to
WF was well within their right to fire her.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:22 pm to
Wells Fargo took bailout money. frick'em.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19674 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:24 pm to
Once again, people confuse the purpose of their constitutional rights, and what they guarantee against. You hear it all the time when somebody gets axed b/c they made a comment about gays or extreme religious beliefs or any of random dumb shite. They all say "but OMG first amendment!!1!!1" Constitutional rights are there to keep the government from taking free speech or to bear arms etc. away, not from a private entity. I have no idea what legal ground shes going to stand on, and I think this case will gets its 15min of fame then be brushed under the rug.
Posted by Biff Tannen
Member since Sep 2012
2522 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Comments?



Well, now all the criminals know that no one at Wells Fargo is armed
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:26 pm to
I agree with everything posted. Hopefully a 2A friendly company will hear about this and hire her.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

My firm is the same way. Not allowed on property which includes parking lot


I can understand if you don't want to post the name of the company, but the state legislature passed the "bring your gun to work" law several sessions ago (I think it was in 2008). There are a few exceptions to this law, including sites where Federal law prohibits firearms.

The law basically says employees have the right to keep a gun in their vehicle. Employers have the right to to provide a locked storage area where employees can leave their unloaded guns on site, and can also opt to provide fenced-off or restricted parking areas for gun owners.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Well, now all the criminals know that no one at Wells Fargo is armed


It makes companies seem more ridiculous about their "weapons free" policies, especially banks. What the hell are people supposed to do? Leave it to the protected class with costumes and badges? I mean Police?

Hell, I ran a few errands yesterday and was more armed carrying my Ruger SR9c concealed than about every "Security Guard" I saw. He/she would've been worthless if shite actually hit the fan.

Why do companies continue to think that forcefully disarming everyone will prevent bad things from happening? Does it have something to do with insurance liability?
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11623 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

I agree with everything posted. Hopefully a 2A friendly company will hear about this and hire her.


I would assume any company that hears of this story will avoid the employee since she is an idiot
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19674 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Why do companies continue to think that forcefully disarming everyone will prevent bad things from happening?



quote:

Does it have something to do with insurance liability?



Answered your own question with a question bap.

Some companies have ulterior motives, but the vast majority don't want the legal liability if they allow the guns in the workplace.

You allow guns, and then an employee walks back to his desk grabs it and offs a couple people, or negligent discharge from playing with it, multitude of things, and the company is fricked. Having the "no gun" policies in place removes some of their liability if something were to happen.
Posted by jsb29
Dothan, AL
Member since Apr 2011
613 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:42 pm to
Her attorney states that Florida has a law that prohibits WF from denying her the right to conceal carry while working. I don't know about the validity of this, but if try, she gone get paid. I do know that Alabama recently passed a similar law. I don't know all of the minute details but I know with the exception of some employers such as schools and maybe hospitals and a few others, an employer has a really hard time stopping it's employees from carrying.
Posted by Coach in Waiting
Sixth Ward
Member since Oct 2009
601 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Why do companies continue to think that forcefully disarming everyone will prevent bad things from happening? Does it have something to do with insurance liability?


If anyone is injured because an armed employee uses or attempts to use a gun, the company will be liable. A disarmed employee may get slaughtered, but he won't cause harm that leads to a lawsuit. Unless a disarmed employee gets hurt or killed and then sues the employer for disarming them, the incentive will always be for the employer to disarm the employee.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19674 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

In Florida, he said, “Employers can’t discriminate against their employees nor can they discriminate against their customers if they are ... law-abiding, licensed concealed weapons permit owners.”


I interpret this and they can't fire you for having a CC or having guns in general because the article goes on to state:

quote:

“There is nothing in the state statute that says the employer has to let her bring it into the building,” Bent said.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19674 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

If anyone is injured because an armed employee uses or attempts to use a gun, the company will be liable. A disarmed employee may get slaughtered, but he won't cause harm that leads to a lawsuit. Unless a disarmed employee gets hurt or killed and then sues the employer for disarming them, the incentive will always be for the employer to disarm the employee.


Yep, the employee(s) may be dead, but they wont be coming back to file suit.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

I would assume any company that hears of this story will avoid the employee since she is an idiot

Sometimes personal safety overrides rules and regulations. She didnt even break a law. How stupid of her trying to keep herself safe
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