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Pelicans' defense in last 18 games
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:30 am
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:36 am to quail man
It's happening! The Rivers Revolution is real people.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:40 am to ShamelessPel
THese stats are skewed Monty has the team playing at such a slow pace that the point allowed are low when in reality the game is just moving slow as shite. Eye test tells you this team doesn't defend well and fouls a lot which is due to a low opp shooting %.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:41 am to 504ByrdGang
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THese stats are skewed Monty has the team playing at such a slow pace that the point allowed are low when in reality the game is just moving slow as shite
I thought this last night when they kept bringing up the graphic on FSNO.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:45 am to 504ByrdGang
when i did per 100 possessions, they are 14th. still middle of the pack. not bad.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:47 am to ShamelessPel
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I thought this last night when they kept bringing up the graphic on FSNO.
He has them playing like this so he looks like a defensive specialist
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:49 am to quail man
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when i did per 100 possessions, they are 14th. still middle of the pack. not bad.
This. PPG.has always been skewed re Monty. But the improvement is real.
If they played this type of defense when healthy, they would be a legit playoff team.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:53 am to 504ByrdGang
We are 3rd in points allowed in the month of Feb. We are 3-6 in that span.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:55 am to corndeaux
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PPG.has always been skewed re Monty
PPG is always skewed because od pace whenever you compare teams. PPG is ok for comparing a single team's trend in a season, etc.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:02 am to 42
Yep. Although even the Pelicans have slowed down considerably over the course of the season.
Edit: I wasnt attacking Monty. More his rep for defensive prowess based on PPG. If anything, I think he's better on offense even if I dislike his style
Edit: I wasnt attacking Monty. More his rep for defensive prowess based on PPG. If anything, I think he's better on offense even if I dislike his style
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:48 am to corndeaux
I put the numbers together in a thread a couple weeks ago. But the defensive turnaround started exactly when Jason Smith went down.
We know he has no clue how to guard a pick and roll and he's soft in the low post
The numbers before and after his last game on 1/15 are too exaggerated for it to just be a coincidence.
We know he has no clue how to guard a pick and roll and he's soft in the low post
The numbers before and after his last game on 1/15 are too exaggerated for it to just be a coincidence.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:14 pm to eyeran
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1/15
exactly the date i ran the numbers through
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:58 pm to corndeaux
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Yep. Although even the Pelicans have slowed down considerably over the course of the season.
Edit: I wasnt attacking Monty. More his rep for defensive prowess based on PPG. If anything, I think he's better on offense even if I dislike his style
PPG is fine for comparing at team to itself, but not for comparing different teams in many cases.
I know you were not going after Monty... There's plenty to go after him about, but mot that.
Monty values defense, but that does not mean he is good at teaching it or has the staff for it at this time, either.
I think the point about Smith is a fair onr, but the loss of Anderson can't be ignored either.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:58 pm to quail man
you know maybe we are giving monty a hard time. at least the defense is getting better. if we have all of our players back we'd be a top 5 west team.
/endtroll
/endtroll
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:18 pm to quail man
I don't know the proper way to statistically measure team defense, but I do know that it is not PPG
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:19 pm to Macintosh504
is it time to start up the tank talk again? I haven't seen much of it lately. Pels are only 4 games out of the 5th spot.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:27 pm to Boomshockalocka
The math still says no. Based on historical numbers 23-25 games is the target. We'll exceed that easily. Projecting winning percentages at the AS break 28 is the number and we have enough games left that we should exceed that as well.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:35 pm to TigerinATL
The schedule is pretty tough to end the year. I'm thinking they finish 9-18 the rest of the way. Maybe worse if they hold out Holiday and Anderson the remainder of the season. So about 32-50 sounds about right. That would probably put them at about 9th in the lottery. Would take a miracle to win a top 3 spot...
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:41 pm to TigerinATL
Yea there's no way to outtank the 4 bottom teams in the East. I could see Sacramento finishing strong, but LAL and UTA will both finish with terrible records too. A guy like Hood from Duke will likely be available when the Pelles pick would have been, I think he will be solid. He reminds me of Terrence Jones a little.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 6:56 am to 42
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I think the point about Smith is a fair onr, but the loss of Anderson can't be ignored either.
Yeah. Also a more conservative scheme has helped.
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