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College football as we know it has changed - loser: fans

Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:10 pm
No more 4 years of watching a top-tier college athlete excel at their respective schools. It's a 3 year plan now - particularly if they have a great redshirt sophomore or junior season. Sure would like to see these kids stay in school and get a degree along with enjoying their senior season with all the accolades and enjoyment of college life. Oh well.... the good old days are gone. It's become the norm - specifically at LSU. Makes me respect the seniors that are great players even more. They are few and far between.


Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3562 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:11 pm to
Them dolla dolla bills are too hard to pass up. Sucks.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:11 pm to
Every team has to deal with this. Some better than others.
Posted by Zee Nuts
Member since Dec 2010
1604 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:12 pm to
Hard to blame kids who dont want to ruin their body with a bad injury and not get paid. That being sad though some guys need to come back in order to get a better grade or grow into their body more.

I am never upset when someone leaves early because I always put myself in their spot I would rather make 800k or so a year than play for free and maybe get hurt
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:14 pm to
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Makes me respect the seniors that are great players even more. They are few and far between.


If you are able to perform at the next level you should move on sooner rather than later.
Posted by Jack Burton
Little China
Member since Jun 2008
2871 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:15 pm to
The difference is the new NFL rules for rookie salaries. Its less about being an early pick and getting the bonus and more about getting to the first FA year or contract extension to get the big money. Add in the average length of NFL career and the earlier the start the better.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 8:16 pm
Posted by JermStone
Beaumont, Tx
Member since Jun 2008
5741 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:17 pm to
This will affect the better players and the better programs more and even out the playing field a little bit I.e. A senior led team
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

The difference is the new NFL rules for rookie salaries. Its less about being an early pick and getting the bonus and more about getting to the first FA year or contract extension to get the big money. Add in the average length of NFL career and the earlier the start the better.


Exactly. It's not about how high you go anymore but about how long you last.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9242 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:24 pm to
It does appear that for the second year in a row LSU will lead that pack in early departures to the NFL. Thankfully it won't be as bad as last year. Nonetheless, LSU is sitting at 5 right now and a couple more decisions due in the next few weeks.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:25 pm to
It could be worse. College basketball
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:26 pm to
People are missing the reason of college here. It is an avenue to prepare you for your career.

If these athletes are ready to start their careers after three years, go for it. Why turn down millions or even hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get a Communications Disorders or Gen Studies degree (while chancing an injury that can ruin your shot at your lucrative career)?

Sure, I'd love to see these guys stay, but that is purely selfish reason from me.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1617 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:26 pm to
Yep, and until we unite we don't stand a chance.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16548 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:29 pm to
Majority of them already have kids
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11145 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:31 pm to
Will probably make it harder to redshirt guys. And will hurt the quality of play in college and pro, like basketball. But it probably won't get that bad. 3 years is still better than 1 and done.
Posted by engl6914
Natchez, Miss.
Member since Aug 2008
388 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:32 pm to
If we had given a scholarship to a student because he could play violin well, and in his 3rd year he left our orchestra/program for a contract to play with the Boston Symphony--well, would we be concerned?
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:33 pm to
It's just manifesting the long term reality that big time college athletics are not a traditional college extracurricular activity. Kids don't go to school and then "try out" for the football team. It's a business - athletes are brought in to play football first and to get enough of an education to keep playing. Some get college degrees, some play professionally, some do neither.

It would be interesting to see a study on how the system has developed - either a book or perhaps a television documentary. Football and basketball have developed differently than say baseball with their minor league system or professional soccer in Europe with their in house teams and their series of leagues leading to the top league in each country.

In a way the two systems seem to be moving towards one another - basketball and now football see kids going to the pros sooner. And baseball sees kids opt for college instead of minor league in some circumstances.

Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4819 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:35 pm to
Makes me sad that some people are so blinded by loyalty of their beloved state institution that they look down on athletes who refuse to work for free.

Furthermore, they praise their local politicians for passing laws designed to keep amateur athletes from learning their actual worth.

The states' complicity with the NCAA/NFL trust is appalling.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16548 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:36 pm to
Yep.

Isn't the purpose of college in many ways to obtain knowledge in a certain field in order to obtain a job?

They are obtaining a job at the premiere program in their "field". It'd be like a Fortune 500 coming to a business undergrad and saying I'll start you out at 6 figures even without that degree... The degree is pointless in that situation.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:49 pm to
Until about 1980 you never got to watch 4 year student athletes
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

They are obtaining a job at the premiere program in their "field". It'd be like a Fortune 500 coming to a business undergrad and saying I'll start you out at 6 figures even without that degree... The degree is pointless in that situation.



Exactly. And with every year there is the chance of injury that is career-ending or sidelines you for an entire season. Better get while the getting is good.

The fact that LSU is losing so many underclassmen (again) simply means the coaches are consistently recruiting top talent.
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