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re: BOIL has become predictable
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:36 pm to white perch
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:36 pm to white perch
2?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:18 pm to TheIndulger
I don't feel like doing the math right now, but I made a small sub 1% gain today
Posted on 2/24/15 at 1:52 pm to white perch
Damn. You can't even order from the dollar menu today
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:33 pm to jimbeam
Dude's learning, cut him some slack. He gets on here and let's us know the good and bad of his trades. Better than a lot of the posters on here, who are all presumably zillionaires if we are to believe them. If.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:36 pm to Iowa Golfer
1% per day is baller status. Even if you start with $10
I do laugh though for reasons I can't entirely pinpoint.
I do laugh though for reasons I can't entirely pinpoint.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:40 pm to Iowa Golfer
I'm just messing with the guy. He's doing well.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:08 pm to Iowa Golfer
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Dude's learning, cut him some slack. He gets on here and let's us know the good and bad of his trades. Better than a lot of the posters on here, who are all presumably zillionaires if we are to believe them. If.
While I agree with you, it's a mistake to think you can learn to trade with real money by trading with play money or the equivalent. It could actually be worse as it can give the trainee a false sense of confidence.
It is fun to watch and see how the strategy works though. As bama said, If I could pick up 1% a day, I'd be one of those kazillionaires in no time!
ETA: the more I think about this, the more I"m convinced he's just playing all of us. When he says $10 trades, he really means 100k. He's just being modest
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:15 pm to Ole War Skule
I trade with play money (no more than I'm willing to lose)
I invest real money mainly in tax sheltered large and mid cap growth stocks/funds.
But it's fun to play though. I'm up over 8% year to date with my play money.
I would never risk my retirement or savings on day trading.
I invest real money mainly in tax sheltered large and mid cap growth stocks/funds.
But it's fun to play though. I'm up over 8% year to date with my play money.
I would never risk my retirement or savings on day trading.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:54 pm to white perch
Back in. I shorted DGAZ. We'll see how long to cover. I'm going to keep it short even if it goes up a significant amount.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:00 pm to I Love Bama
Yes, 1% per day, compounded over a year. That's a hefty return.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:03 pm to Iowa Golfer
Picked up April 17 UNG $13 Puts today. Only bought 2K worth but will likely add more by the end of the week.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:40 am to jlu03
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jlu03
So for the non-option traders, can you shed some light on that? In other words, you bought the right (via a number of $100 put contracts) to sell UNG at $13 on or before April 17?
So you're banking on UNG falling below $13.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:32 am to Grits N Shrimp
He buys the option to sell 100 shares of UNG at $13 with each contract. If UNG goes under $13, he profits.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 8:33 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:48 am to Grits N Shrimp
I'm not necessarily planning on it going below $13 but I do believe the price of Nat Gas will be dropping very soon. If UNG nears $13 a few weeks ahead of the expiration date then I have the opportunity of making quite a bit of cash. Not sure how technical you want to get on this topic.
FYI... 1 contract equals 100 shares not $100.
FYI... 1 contract equals 100 shares not $100.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:46 am to jlu03
I see, thanks. Still trying to learn the language. So is the price to purchase a contract simply whatever price the brokerage firm charges? Which I'm assuming varies based on the firm.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:56 am to Grits N Shrimp
Options are traded on several exchanges. They don't need to be exercised, you can buy or sell the contracts at a gain or loss.
I'[m on the opposite side of the trade. We'll see how it plays out. A lot of short interest, and I'm long because of it.
I'[m on the opposite side of the trade. We'll see how it plays out. A lot of short interest, and I'm long because of it.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:01 am to Iowa Golfer
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They don't need to be exercised
In which case you would only lose the fee you paid to purchase the option...so what is a standard option fee?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:22 am to Grits N Shrimp
The fee is whatever commission your brokerage firm has for you. I'm at .05 per contract + $1.99. The price of the specific contract is whatever you can get it bought or sold for.
If you purchased a contract and it expired worthless (because you didn't sell if when it was marketable on the way down), you'd lose the contract cost which would include the price paid, commission and fees.
If you write a contract and it expires worthless, you keep the buyer's premium less your commissions and fees.
You don't need to let a purchased contract expire worthless, you can sell at any point so long as there is a buyer. A hidden stop loss would be one way.
If you write contracts you'd need to review contingent orders, and check your brokerage firms execution guaranty. For example if I sell calls, I set a buy to close contingent on the underlying securities price. If it blows through the price, it is automatically set to buy, preventing a disaster.
If you purchased a contract and it expired worthless (because you didn't sell if when it was marketable on the way down), you'd lose the contract cost which would include the price paid, commission and fees.
If you write a contract and it expires worthless, you keep the buyer's premium less your commissions and fees.
You don't need to let a purchased contract expire worthless, you can sell at any point so long as there is a buyer. A hidden stop loss would be one way.
If you write contracts you'd need to review contingent orders, and check your brokerage firms execution guaranty. For example if I sell calls, I set a buy to close contingent on the underlying securities price. If it blows through the price, it is automatically set to buy, preventing a disaster.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:28 am to Grits N Shrimp
You pay whatever the market rate is for that option, which is based on the price of the underlying asset the option is written on. In addition, you pay commission + fees just like you would any other stock.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:30 am
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