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re: BOIL has become predictable
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:50 pm to secondandshort
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:50 pm to secondandshort
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Question about UGAZ and DGAZ. Is there an issue with holding them long term. I read in an earlier post about decay. How does that affect these 2? If I've only have a small amount in and I'm way down wouldn't the smart thing to do just wait it out even until next fall if I had to?
That's a great question that I don't know the answer to. I've asked this before and no one has offered an answer.
Right now, I'm just playing with these two ETNs. I sold some UGAZ when it was up a few days ago and use the profit from that to by some DGAZ. Today, I sold some DGAZ while it was up and bought some UGAZ while it was down.
This'll be my plan until I can figure out a better one.
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:52 pm to white perch
Ugh. Not sure what just happened that this just reversed course again.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:53 pm to southernelite
I just...iiiii....I mean. : 
Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:57 pm to white perch
I'm wrong, apparently. I'm not sure how, though.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:01 pm to southernelite
This thing moves on air.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:01 am to Louie T
Right now?
NG up 3.04%
UGAZ down .85%
NG up 3.04%
UGAZ down .85%
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:28 am to ynlvr
I'm stumped...
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:30 am to sneakytiger
NG up 2.93%
UGAZ down 3.1%
10:30 AM
Go Figure
UGAZ down 3.1%
10:30 AM
Go Figure
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:30 am to sneakytiger
Glad I didn't sell my Feb 6th puts earlier this morning. May wait until after report tomorrow.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:29 am to jlu03
Looks like the bears are gonna have it coming into the report. Hopefully, selfishly, after too.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:48 am to southernelite
I sold short last night and bought to cover this morning. I'm long now at $2.89, and I'll sell to close between 9:30-9:40 as I think we're going to see about -230 GIS for last week in today's report.
Just trying to slowly get some of my most recent loss back. Not quite there yet.
Just trying to slowly get some of my most recent loss back. Not quite there yet.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:50 am to Iowa Golfer
what time is the report?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:24 am to white perch
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:31 am to Iowa Golfer
-216, I'm getting out soon.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:40 am to Iowa Golfer
Just sold my puts I bought on Friday. Solid 60% gain. 
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:42 am to jlu03
Brutal for my long, out break even. Made money on my short. Short again @ $2.88 and probably out by lunch today.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:53 am to Iowa Golfer
May pick up some long calls now.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:09 am to jlu03
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:38 pm to southernelite
Pretty large number on today's report, especially compared to last year. I'm not surprised NG didn't jump due to it, but I'm awfully surprised it dropped as much as it did.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:42 pm to rintintin
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but I'm awfully surprised it dropped as much as it did.
I think the price of this ETN has more to do with stock manipulation and emotion/panic than the actual price of NG or NG futures
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